To: CarolinaGuitarman
What part of my statement are you denying:
A. Communism is based off of Dialectic Materialism?
b. Dialectic Materialism is based in Darwinism?
I'm actually baffled that this would even be a point of contention. This is not to say Darwin was a communists, or a Nazi either, (he's tied to them through the Eugenics movement). I have no idea if he would have approved of these associations or not. However, Darwin is the basis of Dialectic Materialsim
from:
http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj71/darwin.htm
"The impact of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was undoubtedly revolutionary. Marx's response to the appearance of The Origin of Species in 1859 is well known. In a letter to Ferdinand Lassalle he wrote:
Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a natural-scientific basis for the class struggle in history... Despite all deficiencies, not only is the death-blow dealt for the first time here to 'teleology' in the natural sciences, but its rational basis is empirically explained.2 "
To: Dead Dog
"What part of my statement are you denying:
A. Communism is based off of Dialectic Materialism?
b. Dialectic Materialism is based in Darwinism? "
B. Hegel was long dead before Darwin published. Marx published Communist Manifesto 9 years before Darwin did the Origin of Species. Darwinism is based in science.
"However, Darwin is the basis of Dialectic Materialsim."
Horse Manure. He can't be the basis for something that existed long before he ever published.
"Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a natural-scientific basis for the class struggle in history."
This shows Marx's inability to understand what Darwin was saying. It had nothing to do with *class struggle*.
"... Despite all deficiencies, not only is the death-blow dealt for the first time here to 'teleology' in the natural sciences, but its rational basis is empirically explained.2 "
What's the *deficiencies* in Darwin's theory according to Marx that was cut out of this quote? And how can Darwin be the cause of something that happened before him?
487 posted on
11/14/2005 11:57:12 AM PST by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Dead Dog
""The impact of Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was undoubtedly revolutionary. Marx's response to the appearance of The Origin of Species in 1859 is well known. " I think the only logical response is: Who cares, it's irrelevant. Either the ToE is an accurate model for the development of new species or it is not. The use of Darwin's original theory by others has no effect on its validity as a model.
508 posted on
11/14/2005 12:43:14 PM PST by
b_sharp
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