[durasell]

World opinion matters for a lot of reasons, particularly now when the debate can be watched in "real time."

As far science being dead in America, nothing could be more untrue. Immigrant kids are eager to use science as a stepping stone to the middleclass. Any large city has from one or several public schools filled with immigrant kids doing exceptionally well in science. And then there are the universities, which attract foreign students from all over the world.

[after dark]

A culture of science depends on more than just the few people who live in cities with good scientific magnet schools.

People on this thread have said that children who are taught ID should be put into remedial classes. This is religious discrimination and any school doing this needs to have its funding cut.

I know people with masters in hard sciences whose high schools only taught ID. You can come out of such an enviorment with an analytical brain.