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To: elbucko

"I do when I read the threats that exist between the lines of openly expressed hatred."

Oh, get over yourself. The only hatred here has been coming from your direction.

"One of hose who want to use the police power of the state to force the teaching of religious dogma as scientific possibility in a class that is, essentially, scientific speculation."

The use of the fossil record to support the proposition that life happened accidentally or through random events is religious dogma, and that is being taught every day.

Your problem is not with religious dogma per se, but with competing religious dogma. Otherwise, you wouldn't froth at the mouth at the mere thought of somebody poking his head into a classroom and saying, "By the way, a lot of us think God is behind it all."

"Evolutionary theory is perfectly willing to stay away from the church and out of the Bible"

Road apples. Evolutionary theory in support of atheism is one of the major weapons in the arsenal of those waging all-out war on Christianity.

"You ID's are on a "Jihad".

No, we're on a crusade in reaction to your jihad on Christianity.

"N'est-ce pas?"

Not even close. It's interesting how often those who hate Christianity are totally ignorant of even its most basic tenets.

"It's not too much of a leap to consider that you ID'ers would willingly use violence, if you could, to please your Deity"

It is as despicable, as scurrilous, as groundless, and as malicious as anything one might find on DU. It is grounded in a total misunderstanding of Christianty, combined with the unjustified and mindless attribution of negative attributes to Christians. In short, it is bigoted hatred arising from ignorance.

"Christianity is not a threat to Islam"

Christianity is most definitely a threat to Islam's design to subjugate the entire globe.

"Likewise Evolution is not Christianity's enemy, but Christians that promote Intelligent Design consider Evolution to be Christianity's enemy."

How in the world did you ever get so confused? Without evolution, there is no ID. The only difference between an atheist evolution proponent and an ID proponent is that the ID proponent says, "I believe that, to some unknown extent and at an unknown time or times, God influenced evolution."

To which the atheist evolution proponent replies, "Heresy! Heresy! Burn them at the stake! Silence them, at all costs."

"William Dembski may have more in common with Osama Bin Laden than he does with Jesus Christ."

Only in the moldy fever swamps inhabited by atheists who cannot tolerate dissent from their orthodoxy.


509 posted on 11/16/2005 2:33:02 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc

Well, I guess you told me, but wasn't enough to change my mind. You still have not resolved the issue of venue.


512 posted on 11/16/2005 6:24:48 AM PST by elbucko
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To: dsc
The only difference between an atheist evolution proponent and an ID proponent is that the ID proponent says, "I believe that, to some unknown extent and at an unknown time or times, God influenced evolution."

So I'm guessing we can now lay to rest any notion that ID has nothing to do with religion?

524 posted on 11/16/2005 10:21:34 AM PST by RogueIsland
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