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you call yourself an IDer.
very well.
what brand of IDer are you? and do you consider your brand of ID to be science?

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what brand of IDer are you? and do you consider your brand of ID to be science? what brand--um... Haines. Actually, while I am a pretty strict IDer, I'm one of those (stating this for the 5th time or so on this thread) who has NO PROBLEM with evolution which is scientifically based. I went to a private religious college--but guess what they taught--evolution, not ID. And there was no problem with that either.

ID canNOT be said to be strict science since it is faith-based and relies on something that can't be scientifically proven--that being the existence of God.

While it may be "science" so to speak to me, I can't go out thee and "prove" it nor do I insist that I know everything. I DON'T. I have no problem learning from the ideas and thoughts of others like yourself. I actually respect posters like Incheumon immensely because he does make many good arguments.

I guess you could say that I'm an ID'er who loves and appreciates science. I don't reject all of it just because I may not agree completely with things in evolution. That's dumb, to put it in a little kid sense. As a kid, I loved dinosaurs and fossils as did my mom before that and my Grandpa before that. We had no problem with their existence nor did it conflict with our Christian beliefs.