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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 November 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 13 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/13/2005 5:20:09 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, November 13th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): King Abdullah II of Jordan; Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean; Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.; Democratic Gov. Mark Warner of Virginia.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., chairwoman, National Republican Senatorial Committee; Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., chairman, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee; Rep. Tom Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman, National Republican Congressional Committee; Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., chairman, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley; Sens. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Ahmed Chalabi; Jordanian Deputy Prime Minister Marwan Muasher; Democratic Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa; Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; chairmandean; cowarddean; demplansecret; elizabethdole; facethenation; fns; foxnewssunday; guests; huckabee; ihaveaplan; jayrockefeller; kenmehlman; kingabdullah; lateedition; lineup; markwarner; mccain; meetthepress; mtp; patroberts; rahmemanuel; schumer; sunday; talkshows; thisweek; vilsack; wontshowplan
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To: Txsleuth
I have to add to your list of things that Congress has run away from.....border control.

Isn't that a fact. Fling "border control" (with quotes) into the Congressional Wayback Machine for a few real hoots!

[Congressional Record: May 26, 2005 (House)]
[Page H4120]

Mr. NORWOOD. Mr. Speaker, this month a bill to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants was introduced in the United States Senate.


[Congressional Record: September 27, 2005 (House)]
[Page H8378]

Mr. DeFAZIO. ... They have got a beauty here. They have got a woman they want to put in charge of the border control of the United States of America who even the Republican Senators have questioned whether or not she has any capability, a woman named Julie Myers, another political hack. Ohio Republican Senator George Voinovich said he would really like to hear from Mr. Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, come spend a little time with us, tell us personally why he thinks she is qualified for the job, because based on the resume, I do not think you are. That is a Republican Senator. This is the woman who would be charged with keeping terrorists out of the United States of America, and that is a dysfunctional bureaucracy and has been for a long time.


[Congressional Record: November 3, 2005 (House)]
[Page H9627-H9633]

Mr. HAYWORTH. That brings us to the subject at hand tonight, our border security and our national security. And despite the prattlings of the preceding hour, in many ways our Commander in Chief has answered the call in the wake of 9/11.

But when it comes to the border issues, the fact is the record is troubling, and it results in constructive criticism. Just as many within our party offered constructive criticism about the selection of a Supreme Court judge, reasonable people can offer constructive criticism.

Item. Congress Daily, this morning, Thursday, November 3, Homeland Secretary unveils border security initiative. Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff Wednesday rolled out a multi-year plan to secure the Nation's border and reduce illegal immigration, dubbing the proposal as the, quote, enforcement complement to President Bush's temporary guest worker program.

Constructive criticism number one, in accompanying documents released yesterday in Houston, Texas, Secretary Chertoff said his Department had a 5-year plan to gain operational control of the borders.

Mr. Speaker, the American people and our Nation cannot wait 5 years for operational control of our borders. The attacks of 9/11 came almost a half decade ago. Are we then to wait 10 years in wartime to secure our borders? That is wrong. That is the wrong time table. Border security at once because border security is synonymous with national security.

The other troubling aspect of the dispatch in this morning's Congress Daily, the enforcement complement to President Bush's temporary guest worker program.

Mr. Speaker, I have introduced, and my colleagues who join me tonight on this floor have sponsored, the Enforcement First Initiative. The American people demand enforcement first. Call it putting the cart before the horse, but those who talk about a guest worker program have it exactly backwards. What we should do is enforce existing laws, close loopholes and then and only then engage in a debate about guest worker programs.

Indeed, this debate about border security, national security, illegal immigration, and the euphemism that accompanies it of undocumented workers, an Orwellian turn of phrase if there ever was one because many of these alleged undocumented have documents galore, and should we also point out that under the existing framework we have visa programs literally from A to Z under the existing legal framework, but again back to the situation at hand.

A fair question could be posed in this fashion: If people are not obeying existing laws, what makes us think they would obey any new laws?


[Congressional Record: April 19, 2005 (Senate)]
[Page S3865-S3884]

The Senator from Idaho. Mr. CRAIG. Americans are frustrated. They want that border controlled, as do all of us. But what we know works well is the coupling of more security with a law that provides for a legal work force. And that is what we are offering today, some $7 billion a year worth of certification and better internal enforcement. We are putting law enforcement money on the ground in the local communities. And because there is a segment of our economy that needs this particular type of employee, we have a guest worker program that faces up to the economic reality of our country.


[Congressional Record: July 14, 2005 (Senate)]
[Page S8248-S8290]

Amendment No. 1219 To Amendment No. 1124

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the hour of 10 a.m. having arrived, the Senate will proceed to a series of votes.

Under the previous order, there are now 2 minutes equally divided prior to a vote on amendment No. 1219 to amendment No. 1124. Who yields time?

The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. ENSIGN. Madam President, I urge my colleagues to support the Ensign-McCain amendment. Last year during the debate on the national intelligence reform bill, we adopted several of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, including hiring 2,000 agents per year for border control. This bill, while it is an increase over what the President requested, only funds 1,000 new agents. What our amendment will do is fund the full 2,000. ...

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to amendment No. 1219.
The result was announced--yeas 38, nays 60, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 179 Leg.]

The amendment (No. 1219) was rejected.

Mr. NELSON of Nebraska. Mr. President, today's vote pitted two of America's top priorities against each other in a face off over Federal funding. Our national security interests are inherent is both securing our borders to keep terrorists out and providing first responders the resources they need to detect, prevent and respond to emergencies and terrorism.

The underlying bill supports 1,000 new border patrol agents. That is a significant investment in securing our borders. The amendment we voted on would have added funding for an additional 1,000 agents, but redirected funds away from scarce first responder resources.

We need to make border control and first responders copriorities. Considering the existing funding in the underlying bill for 1,000 new border patrol agents, I simply could not support an amendment that would strip funds from our police officers, firefighters, and emergency response personnel. For most people, homeland security is really hometown security. Our States rely heavily on these first responder funds to keep our communities safe.

Vote on Amendment No. 1124

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the first- degree amendment No. 1124.
The amendment (No. 1124) was rejected.


721 posted on 11/13/2005 11:23:38 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Arrowhead1952

If you don't eat dinner late...you could watch the replay at 9:00 tonight on MSNBC!!!!

PS---you are correct about the soft balls...Fat Tim not only threw soft balls...but, he gave Dean long periods of time to just propagandize...ewwwwww


722 posted on 11/13/2005 11:24:10 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: stumpy

He could have been a bit more delicate, but nobody would have paid attention. Now a lot more people that are not crazy about the left wing nuts in California especially SF know that they are anti Military. Let them call either Willie when Al Qaida comes calling.


723 posted on 11/13/2005 11:25:34 AM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

I want a notarized statement from MRS. MORGAN that you posted that with a straight face. lol


724 posted on 11/13/2005 11:26:13 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: CyberAnt
Is this another upstaging of Condi by Hillary ..??

Yes. It's the Clinton's shadow government. They will never go away!!!

725 posted on 11/13/2005 11:26:21 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Mo1

"I wonder what their definition of Communism is ???"


I'm afraid to ask!


726 posted on 11/13/2005 11:26:58 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: daviscupper
I swear I saw Sen. Rockefeller's nose actually grow longer during that interview ~ he pulled the typical cRat evasion ploy of not answering a direct question by responding with an accusation. I am so tired of these hypocrites and their single-minded determination to unseat Bush at any cost!
727 posted on 11/13/2005 11:27:05 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: MNJohnnie
I didn't see the article. My response was to the poster who said that Santorum was saying that the President need to promote the WOT more. I'm getting fed up, as you are, with the "Bush needs to ...." choir. Instead of waiting on the President - they should DO SOMENTHING, themselves!

However, I'm not surprised about the media "Drive By". I would have expected it. Do you know that I saw an article (Don't remember which MSM), after the recent Virginia and NJ elections that referenced:

"conservative Virginia and Democrat Leaning New Jersey"

tells you a lot about where those reporters are coming from!
728 posted on 11/13/2005 11:28:23 AM PST by Bush 100 Percent
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To: Txsleuth

There is no &*^&%*%# way I'd watch replays this PM. I am having steak and baked potato for dinner tonight and don't want to barf watching screm'in dean.......


729 posted on 11/13/2005 11:29:34 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (DUmmies are permanently stuck on stupid.)
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To: MNJohnnie; All
O.K. all let's get those eloquent posts in. I will be cutting off the competition for the top 10 at 800 today.
730 posted on 11/13/2005 11:30:10 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Morgan in Denver

You don't sound defensive....you are just pointing out differences between party members...and I agree with it.

However, the perception is that the party isn't together, and is turning against President Bush..

Unfortunately, in the world we live in, in some cases, "image is everything"...and that image/perception is contoured by the MSM...so, the Republicans get lumped together, and dumped on together.


731 posted on 11/13/2005 11:30:47 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: Bahbah; All

"It is exactly the "journalism" he knows and practices."


You are correct!! Rush said that too. In other words, the guy was trying to cover-up what mapes said because she was exposing a dirty little secret! LOL!


732 posted on 11/13/2005 11:30:52 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: CyberAnt

Dr. Rice goes to Jordan tomorrow. Hillary goes today.


733 posted on 11/13/2005 11:32:21 AM PST by debg
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To: submarinerswife
The job of DeomocRATS are to be bad examples. We can just point to them when our children ask:

What is a liar?

What is a cheater?

What is an adulterer?

What is a hypocrite?

What is a traitor?

What is a phony?

What is a crook?

What is an idiot?

What is a whiner?

etc., etc., etc. So you see DemocRATS are not totally useless. JMHO
734 posted on 11/13/2005 11:33:02 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: bray

Rush is right again .. these idiots have no earthly idea how they appear to the general public.


735 posted on 11/13/2005 11:33:08 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: Bush 100 Percent
I used to be a big Santorum fan, but his backing off the President, rather than a strong offense, IMHO, is a big mistake. The same goes for all the Republicans.

The media is taking Santorum's comments out of context ... he wasn't backing off ... he was saying the WH needs to be stronger in explaining the long term actions of the WOT and what will happen if we lose Iraq

Which I do agree with

My complaint is why can't he and others explain it also .. why can't he and other confront the likes of Kennedy and Reid on the Senate Floor when they make such outrageous comments ??

You are correct .. The President isn't the only Republican ... Others can step up to the plate also

736 posted on 11/13/2005 11:36:11 AM PST by Mo1
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To: MNJohnnie
Spin both ways? Nonsense.

I really meant to say what you are saying. The Dems can say something disgusting and have it spun noble, the Repubs can say something noble and have it spun negative. It is what I meant, anyway, when I said it could be spun either way.

737 posted on 11/13/2005 11:36:16 AM PST by Pusterfuss (Proud member: Minnesotans for Global Warming)
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To: Miss Marple

I saw that interview...and warned my husband about him...and I was correct...Sabato is drinking strawberry kool-aid these days...

First of all, Bush doesn't govern from poll results...second of all...Bush is NOT running for elective office again.

It also seems that there ARE a lot more RINOS that DO legislate to the polls than we thought...so we have work to do.


738 posted on 11/13/2005 11:37:51 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: cardinal4
Fingers in the wind, jumping for opportunites--nothing new here with the Clintons.Bubba sure would have cried however if we did it during his adm.
739 posted on 11/13/2005 11:39:02 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: jslade

Wow. You got that right. I had a very difficult time concentrating on what she was saying. However, believe it or not she made a lot of sense. She apparently thinks terrorists are terrible people now that they have started to attack her kingdom. Better late than never.

I agree. She has got to be one of the five best looking women in the world. I guess being a King has its benefits. Too bad half the people in his own kingdom want to kill him. I bet he does not get much sleep. For at least two reasons.


740 posted on 11/13/2005 11:39:24 AM PST by daviscupper
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