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Vets Arrested Trying To Remove Peace Display
Milwaukee Channel.com ^ | Nov.12, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/12/2005 1:28:26 PM PST by radar101

Five veterans were arrested and taken to jail Thursday night after ignoring police orders not to touch flags planted by an anti-war group.

The five were charged with criminal trespass after they attempted to pull up the 2,000 white flags in Waterville, Maine's Veterans Memorial Park. The flags represented the 2,000 U.S. soldiers killed in the war in Iraq.

The group Waterville Area Bridges for Peace and Justice called the display an important visual reminder of the lives lost.

Waterville Police Chief John Morris, who is a Vietnam veteran himself, said the group had a legal permit to place the flags in the public park.

The veterans said the flags were planted in "sacred ground."

Morris said, "I spoke to them as a veteran and suggested that legitimate veterans' organizations do not resort to civil disobedience to make their point. I warned them, very carefully, that they were not allowed to do destructive behavior on these flags. If they did, we would have to ask them to leave the park. If they refused to leave the park then we'd have to arrest them, and that's what happened."

The five veterans were booked at police headquarters and released after paying $40 to the bail commissioner.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Maine; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiwar; donutwatch; lefties; peaceacivists; rino; veterans; veteransday; whiteflags
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To: RadioAstronomer

The Globe didn't make this clear - the "memorial park" is a cemetery.

The "peace group" is called Waterville Area Bridges for Peace and Justice", their web page is here:
http://www.wabpj.org/index.htm


21 posted on 11/12/2005 1:46:27 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

So far as I can tell, the Bangor Daily News (Maine's largest paper, and pretty much anti-war) hasn't covered this at all. Howie Carr, how about pointing the loud finger?


23 posted on 11/12/2005 1:46:36 PM PST by Grut
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To: silverleaf
Allowing anti-war activists to post flags in a Veteran's Memorial is like allowing the KKK to post crosses at a Martin Luther King memorial.

Who in the world allowed the protesters to desecrate a veterans memorial ?

That is the person that needs to be identified.

24 posted on 11/12/2005 1:48:12 PM PST by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty.)
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To: radar101
The police should not protect a memorial discretion.
25 posted on 11/12/2005 1:48:29 PM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: radar101

WHO granted the permit? Is it a federal military cemetary? Something here is not adding up.


26 posted on 11/12/2005 1:50:10 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: radar101
the "memorial park" is a cemetery.

Nope it is not. Google it, I did. It is a park.

27 posted on 11/12/2005 1:50:12 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
WATERVILLE -- Veterans Memorial Park, located at the corner of Elm and Park streets, has a rich history, having originally been a cemetery for veterans of the American revolution.

http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/2135227.shtml

but what WE fought for was the right for those people to place those flags.

Yes we did. But I'd still remove the flags, I didn't say I'd beat the crap out of the jerks that planted them.

28 posted on 11/12/2005 1:50:36 PM PST by Cagey (Some men are Baptists, others Catholics, my father was an Oldsmobile man.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

OK, so are you with me that we chip in for a permit and buy 2,752 flags with an image of the burning twin towers and plant them on the flanks of the surrender flags? No way they could deny the permit for that display after issuing the first one. If the surrender display is allowable free speech in a park, then I propose we start up a conversation with them.


29 posted on 11/12/2005 1:50:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("To the terrorists, the media is a vital force multiplier" Brig. Gen. Donald Alston (USAF) 10/31/05)
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To: radar101

The initial mistake was in the city allowing a group to make a political statement on what is presumably public property. Once the city made this error, it had to stand by its decision.

Kudos to the vets for their sense of duty.


30 posted on 11/12/2005 1:51:29 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Inertia. It's not just for breakfast any more.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Maybe if they were American flags. Otherwise they don't belong there.

The farther left our nation sinks, a little civil disobedience is going to be necessary.
31 posted on 11/12/2005 1:52:31 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: RadioAstronomer; radar101

It is indeed a cemetary. See Post#28


32 posted on 11/12/2005 1:52:39 PM PST by Cagey (Some men are Baptists, others Catholics, my father was an Oldsmobile man.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Do the Veterans have any rights?


33 posted on 11/12/2005 1:52:54 PM PST by sgtyork
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To: Cagey

Fair enough. Moved in 1800s. Is a park now. Thanks for the info.


34 posted on 11/12/2005 1:53:56 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: sgtyork

Do people who are not have any as well?


35 posted on 11/12/2005 1:54:45 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: NonValueAdded
OK, so are you with me that we chip in for a permit and buy 2,752 flags with an image of the burning twin towers and plant them on the flanks of the surrender flags? No way they could deny the permit for that display after issuing the first one. If the surrender display is allowable free speech in a park, then I propose we start up a conversation with them.

I would be right with you there.

36 posted on 11/12/2005 1:55:58 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Moved in 1800's

True, but according to that article Asa Redington and 'others' are still interned at the Memorial Park.

Redington, one of the founding father's of the city, enlisted three times in the Revolutionary War and was a member of George Washington's elite honor guard.

37 posted on 11/12/2005 2:01:34 PM PST by Cagey (Some men are Baptists, others Catholics, my father was an Oldsmobile man.)
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To: sgtyork

I suppose the veterans had the right to burn those 2000 white flags. Given as how the anti-war left consistently burns the American flag to show what they think of what it stands for.

Sounds like it's time for the VFW to "buy" that public park for $1 and lease it back to the city for $2... then it's not "public property" and the owners can control who conducts war protests on it.


38 posted on 11/12/2005 2:01:49 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Cagey

Sorry I got on this thread. Bye all.


39 posted on 11/12/2005 2:05:22 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Seeking the truth

Gene, price quote please on 2,752 flags with a two-sided image of the burning towers and shipping to Waterville, Me. contingent on the issuance of a permit.


40 posted on 11/12/2005 2:06:07 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("To the terrorists, the media is a vital force multiplier" Brig. Gen. Donald Alston (USAF) 10/31/05)
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