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To: trashcanbred
I will concede if it will get you to answer my question about why you want to teach my children the bible in school when I don't want you to.

I will take that as answering that the Constitution does not say anything about "separation of church and state"

I never said anything about teaching your kids the Bible even if it was with your consent. I do not think your children should be taught counter to your feelings. However, I do believe it is appropriate to study the Bible in school. That does not mean an attempt should be made to convert your children. In cases where the school district has chosen to teach about the Bible, or Koran, or Sacred Hindu texts, or Navajo beliefs etc, a suitable alternate topic should be available for those children whose parents do not agree with the religious subjects being covered. The appropriate place for full Bible study is Sunday School whether that is Baptist, Methodist, LDS, or etc.

143 posted on 11/14/2005 7:55:14 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: AndrewC
will take that as answering that the Constitution does not say anything about "separation of church and state"

Well... I agreed it does not explicitly but it does implicitly. The equal protection and due process clauses of the 14th amendment applies the establishment clause to the states in addition to congress. Look you can argue with me about this all you want, but this is what every court in the US goes by. Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas seemed to have no trouble applying due process and equal protection clauses to justify the remedy in Bush v. Gore in 2000. I did not hear a peep out of Rush or Hannity on State's rights then, did you?

It is the same thing with the term "proof beyond a reasonable doubt". Does it exist anywhere in the US Constitution? Nope... but the Supreme Court explicitly held that it does via the due process clause.

Look many cases are decided in the US by interpretation of the law, especially when it is a constitutional case. That is how it has worked here and Great Britain for a very long time.

Anyway thanks for not wanting to convert my children. If I seemed angry, then you were correct.

144 posted on 11/15/2005 10:48:07 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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