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The notion to form a DHS predates 9/11 by years. I don't know Bush's position vis-a-vis the combining of departments. That is, he may have agreed with management structure changes in general, but objected only to federalizing of airport security employees.

I don't recall the idea ever arising durng the Clinton years. Lieberman was one of the initial proponents after 9/11. Bush gave into the political pressure in much the same way that he approved the 9/11 Commission.

"Bush initially resisted the idea of a new department, which had been championed primarily by Democrats in the wake of the attacks. But Bush embraced the concept in June and used the issue effectively on the campaign trail this past fall, criticizing Democrats who differed with him over the issue of labor rights within the new department." Bush signs Homeland Security bill

Victim of circumstances or not, the record of spending and advocating federal programs speaks for itself.

I don't quite understand your logic. If circumstances like 9/11 and Katrina increased federal spending unavoidably, why should Bush be blamed? Where should he reduce spending and the size of government? He can't even get a GOP controlled Congress to approve a $36 billion reduction out of a $2 1/2 trillion annual budget. $36 billion is viturally a rounding error. In any event, the federal budget never goes down. All that can be done is to reduce the rate of increase.

151 posted on 11/12/2005 9:06:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
The notion to form a DHS predates 9/11 by years. I don't know Bush's position vis-a-vis the combining of departments. That is, he may have agreed with management structure changes in general, but objected only to federalizing of airport security employees.

I don't recall the idea ever arising durng the Clinton years. Lieberman was one of the initial proponents after 9/11. Bush gave into the political pressure in much the same way that he approved the 9/11 Commission.

A mess of links below. The first are overarching, others get into details. Lieberman did put up the Senate version of the bill on October 21, 2001, but the history of Homeland Security is considerably older than that.

You are right that President Bush objected. He objected to the structure proposed by USCNS/21, and to the structure proposed by the House in March 2001.

U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century, Hart-Rudman Commission
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nssg/
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/nssg/

New World Coming: American Security in the 21st Century
The Phase I Report of the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century
The United States Commission on National Security/21st Century
September 15, 1999
http://www.milnet.com/hart-rudman/nwc.htm


For example, in Phase I the Commission stressed that mass-casualty terrorism directed against the U.S. homeland was of serious and growing concern. It therefore proposed in Phase II a strategy that prioritizes deterring, defending against, and responding effectively to such dangers. Thus, in Phase III, it recommends a new National Homeland Security Agency to consolidate and refine the missions of the nearly two dozen disparate departments and agencies that have a role in U.S. homeland security today.

Road Map for National Security: Imperative for Change
The Phase III Report of the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century
The United States Commission on National Security/21st Century
January 31, 2001
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/nssg.pdf
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nssg/phaseIIIfr.pdf


The U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century, popularly known as the Hart-Rudman Commission after its chairs, has recently produced a series of reports. The commission believes that recent changes in the security environment mean the rise of new threats, in particular the likelihood of an attack on American soil resulting in thousands of casualties. As a consequence, the commission calls for major changes in the organization of national security institutions in order to respond adequately to these new challenges. ...

The commission s focus on a threat of mass casualty attack on the American homeland perpetrated by Third World states runs the risk of an unbalanced threat assessment. The threat of mass casualty by foreign states cannot be discounted, but it is not clear how the commission arrives at the conclusion that this is likely to be America's biggest security challenge in the coming decades. This monograph argues, first, that there is also a substantial risk of mass casualty attack perpetrated by U.S. citizens. ...

The major recommendations of the commission concern reorganization of the institutions of national security. While many of these recommendations, such as the call for a National Homeland Security Agency, should be adopted, the commission is prone to rely heavily on moral exhortation rather than, for example, economic incentives, as a way of changing what it sees as inefficiencies and defects in American government. This monograph argues that moral exhortation is unlikely to be effective except as part of a large package of policies.

THE HART-RUDMAN COMMISSION AND THE HOMELAND DEFENSE
Ian Roxborough - September 2001
http://purl.access.gpo.gov/GPO/LPS14778
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/PUB295.pdf


In the spring of 2001, Congress began working on legislation creating a Homeland Defense Agency, but in May, 2001, President Bush issued Congress a cease and desist order.

Sean D. Carberry, Democratic Political Strategist, Consultant, Former NPR Producer
Written in April, 2004
http://www.carpedonut.com/hart.php

There is no such thing as a "Presidential cease and desist order against Congress," but I think Mr. Carberry is referring to Executive action that would have the effect of rendering Congressional action moot.


President George Bush directs creation of an Office of National Preparedness May 8, 2001
CRS-RL31148 | October 10, 2001 (See footnote 25)
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/6209.pdf
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/RL31148.pdf

FEMA's Mission: Policy Directives for the Federal Emergency Management Agency
CRS-RL31285 | Updated March 13, 2002
http://www.opencrs.com/getfile.php?rid=30518


For Release: May 8, 2001

Thornberry Praises President Bush for Taking Steps to
Strengthen and Better Coordinate U.S. Homeland Security

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX) today praised President George W. Bush for taking steps to strengthen and better coordinate the way the federal government prevents and responds to homeland threats.

Thornberry is a member of the Armed Services Committee and the Budget Committee. A leading proponent of transforming our military and national security structures and strategy so we are better prepared for future threats, he is the author legislation introduced this past March (HR 1158) that would reorganize the federal government so it is better prepared for threats against the American homeland.

"My bill would go farther than the President's plan in several key ways by bringing some of the key federal agencies with responsibility for homeland security under one roof," Thornberry stated. "Still, the President's plan is a step in the right direction because it elevates the importance the federal government places on homeland security. It is also something that will hopefully help lay the groundwork for further reorganization of our federal government in the future. And I do think we need to go farther.

"More than 40 federal agencies currently have responsibility for homeland security. Still, we remain remarkably unprepared. Each day, over $8.8 billion worth of goods, over 1.3 million people, over 340,000 vehicles, and over 58,000 shipments enter our country. Yet only 1 to 2 percent of these packages and vehicles are inspected at the border.

"At a time when we're debating how to transform our military and reorganize our national defenses, strengthening our homeland security is an issue we can no longer ignore."

Under the President's plan, Vice President Cheney would oversee the development of a coordinated national effort to better prepare the federal government to prevent and respond to homeland threats. In addition, the Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency will establish an Office of National Preparedness in FEMA to coordinate federal and state activities in this area.

In this regard, the President's plan mirrors Thornberry's bill somewhat. Under HR 1158, FEMA would be renamed the National Homeland Security Agency. The new NHSA would continue to be the federal government's principal response agency in times of natural disaster. It would also become the federal government's principal agency for coordination, response and prevention with regard to terrorist attacks and other manmade disasters, and the principal point of contact for state and local governments. The Coast Guard, Customs Service, and Border Patrol would be transferred to the new NHSA as individual entities.

Thornberry is a member of the Armed Services Committee and the Budget Committee. A leading proponent of transforming our military and national security structures and strategy so we are better prepared for future threats, he was the prime House author of the 1999 legislative proposal that established the Rumsfeld Space Commission.

Thornberry is also the author of legislation introduced this past March (HR 1158) that would reorganize the federal government so it is better prepared for threats against the U.S. homeland.

http://www.house.gov/thornberry/news_releases/2001/May82001.htm


Cheney to Lead Anti-Terrorism Plan Team
New FEMA Office Will Coordinate Response Efforts of More Than 40 Agencies, Officials Say

By Vernon Loeb - Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 9, 2001; Page A29

Vice President Cheney will oversee development of a plan for responding to terrorist attacks in the United States, while a new office within the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) will coordinate terrorist response efforts by more than 40 federal agencies, the Bush administration announced yesterday.

Testifying at a joint hearing of three Senate committees, FEMA Director Joe M. Allbaugh said he would soon be establishing an Office of National Preparedness to coordinate federal programs and assist local governments in responding to terrorist attacks involving so-called weapons of mass destruction. ...

But in choosing to transfer those duties to FEMA, the Bush administration stopped well short of creating a high-level coordinating council in the White House, as called for last year in legislation that passed unanimously in the House but died in the Senate.

Also in choosing FEMA, the administration declined to act on the recommendations of a congressionally mandated commission on national security that recommended combining the duties of the Coast Guard, the Customs Service, FEMA and the Border Patrol into a new National Homeland Security Agency.

Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) said in an interview after the hearing that the administration's plan highlights the need for better coordination of responses to terrorism. But Gregg said he hopes Cheney's review will clearly define the roles of FEMA and the FBI, which remain murky.

During the hearing, Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D-S.C.) noted a recent $200 million cut in FEMA's budget and said that "rather than coordinating, we're dis-coordinating the effort being made in the prevention of terrorism."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64420-2001May8?language=printer
http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2001nn/0105nn/010509nn.htm


[Congressional Record: March 21, 2001 (House)]
[Page H1059-H1060]

PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS

Under clause 2 of rule XII, public bills and resolutions were introduced and severally referred, as follows:

By Mr. THORNBERRY:
H.R. 1158. A bill to establish the National Homeland Security Agency; to the Committee on Government Reform.


H.R. 1158 Title: To establish the National Homeland Security Agency
Introduced in House of Representatives, March 21, 2001
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquerytr/z?d107:HR1158:@@@L&summ2=m&


[Congressional Record: March 29, 2001 (House)]
[Page H1343-H1345]

PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS

Under clause 2 of rule XII, public bills and resolutions of the following titles were introduced and severally referred, as follows:

By Mr. SKELTON:
H.R. 1292. A bill to require the President to develop and implement a strategy for homeland security; to the Committee on Armed Services, and in addition to the Committees on Transportation and Infrastructure, the Judiciary, and Intelligence (Permanent Select), for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.


[Congressional Record: April 23, 2001 (Digest)]
[Page D334-D337]

Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, April 24, Subcommittee on Economic Development, Public Buildings and Emergency Management and the Subcommittee on National Security, Veterans' Affairs and International Relations of the Committee on Government Reform, joint oversight hearing on Combating Terrorism: Options to Improve the Federal Response, focusing on the following bills: H.R. 525, Preparedness Against Domestic Terrorism Act of 2001; H.R. 1158, National Homeland Security Strategy Act; and H.R. 1292, Homeland Security Strategy Act of 2001, 3 p.m., 2167 Rayburn.


[Congressional Record: June 22, 2001 (Digest)]
[Page D619-D623]

Select Committee on Intelligence, June 27, Working Group on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy and National Security, executive, joint briefing on Counterterrorism Issues, 2 p.m., H-405 Capitol.


[Congressional Record: June 26, 2001 (Digest)]
[Page D638-D639]

Select Committee on Intelligence, Working Group on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy and National Security, executive, joint briefing on Counterterrorism Issues, 2 p.m., H-405 Capitol.


[Congressional Record: August 1, 2001 (Digest)]
[Page D829-D830]

Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Working Group on Terrorism and Homeland Security, executive, briefing on ``CBRN 101,'' The Terrorist Threat, 10 a.m., H-405 Capitol.


[Congressional Record: September 5, 2001 (House)]
[Page H5391-H5393]

MILITARY STRATEGY

The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Johnson of Illinois). Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 3, 2001, the Chair would recognize the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton) for half the time remaining before midnight, or approximately 56 minutes.

Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Speaker, I rise this evening to address a crucial issue for the future of our Nation, the military strategy that will govern our armed services. ...

The first preventive element of our military strategy is the protection of the U.S. homeland as it is our most fundamental national interest. We know of a number of states and nonstate actors that may seek to counter U.S. conventional strength through attacks that may involve weapons of mass destruction.

To counter these threats, the United States needs a comprehensive homeland security strategy, and I have called for this in legislation. To be sure, a limited missile defense system is part of such an effort, but the obsession of national missile defense by some as a ``Maginot line in the sky'' has become theological. Secretary Rumsfeld rightly points out that we cannot predict all of the threats that we will face, just as no one predicted Pearl Harbor or Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. But yet his strategy lacks the flexibility to deal with a range of threats when it puts such significant emphasis and resources on a single threat to be countered with missile defense. Missile defense systems should be treated as a weapons system like any other, and it should be only one part of the U.S. approach to protecting its citizens.

Homeland security must include continued support for nonproliferation programs, including cooperative threat reduction programs with states of the former Soviet Union. It must include great resources for intelligence and coordinated response mechanisms among a range of government agencies. Comprehensive homeland security, not merely the one element represented by missile defense, should be the focus of our efforts.


Commission warned Bush
By Jake Tapper - Sept. 12, 2001

Bush administration officials told former Sens. Gary Hart, D-Colo., and Warren Rudman, R-N.H., that they preferred instead to put aside the recommendations issued in the January report by the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century. Instead, the White House announced in May that it would have Vice President Dick Cheney study the potential problem of domestic terrorism -- which the bipartisan group had already spent two and a half years studying -- while assigning responsibility for dealing with the issue to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by former Bush campaign manager Joe Allbaugh.

The Hart-Rudman Commission had specifically recommended that the issue of terrorism was such a threat it needed far more than FEMA's attention.

Before the White House decided to go in its own direction, Congress seemed to be taking the commission's suggestions seriously, according to Hart and Rudman. "Frankly, the White House shut it down," Hart says. "The president said 'Please wait, we're going to turn this over to the vice president. We believe FEMA is competent to coordinate this effort.' And so Congress moved on to other things, like tax cuts and the issue of the day."

Salon.com Politics | "We predicted it"
http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/


If circumstances like 9/11 and Katrina increased federal spending unavoidably, why should Bush be blamed? Where should he reduce spending and the size of government?

I cut FedGov more slack in the areas of defense and disaster response. My perception that President Bush is a big government guy is not based on those items, much, if at all.

And as we all know, the President isn't really the purse strings guy, except inasmuch as he advocates bigger FedGov (see, e.g., Medicare Drug Program and increasing size of Federal Department of Education) and withholds his veto on bills that contain more spending than he would like.

His lack of aversion to big FedGov extends into areas that are not purely fiscal, such as Campaign Finance and his willingness to extend the mean-looking-weapons ban (the Assault Weapons Ban).

Understandably, 9/11 also provoked a "big government" reaction without much rhetoric encouraging people to develop more local and self reliance. Our centralized society (not just government) creates a set of vulnerabilities that could be reduced. But we are now on a path that leads to more centralized control, not less.

In any event, the federal budget never goes down. All that can be done is to reduce the rate of increase.

That's my definition of big federal government. I'm not saying President Bush broke any campaign promise relating to the above - he's been open about being a big government guy, not only for domestic programs, but also for foreign aid and "spreading democracy around the world." See, e.g., National Endowment for Democracy and its activities, generously funded and fully supported by the Bush administration.

154 posted on 11/13/2005 3:05:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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