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To: Hacksaw

"Come to think of it, they were just cheering the election of Democrats in Dover Pa a few days ago. Makes one wonder why they are on a conservative forum in the first place."

Actually, we were decrying the loss of those seats to Democrats. This is what happens when conservatives abandon science and reason and embrace irrationality, they get booted from office. Creationism (and it's ugly stepchild ID) makes Republicans look foolish. And rightly so. Hopefully the national Republican Party will take some notes and learn a lesson from Dover.


15 posted on 11/12/2005 5:16:39 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; Hacksaw
This is what happens when conservatives abandon science and reason and embrace irrationality, they get booted from office.

It's also what happens when a church embraces irrationality: people lose their faith.

That's one of the biggest reasons why, I as a Christian, want to see ID defeated.

16 posted on 11/12/2005 5:52:23 AM PST by curiosity (Cronyism is not conservative)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
If the creationists knew how to read and think, they would understand what we're saying here. But then, if they could do those things ... well, they wouldn't be creationists, would they?

To make my position clear -- although any creationist can and probably will, deny, spin, and ignore what I'm saying -- ID-creationism is electoral death to the conservative movement. If conservatism embraces this lunacy, then it will go down the drain, like the bozo school board in Dover. But I want conservatism to prevail. Which is why I want the republican party, at the top, to make the conscious decision to abandon the madness of creationism-ID.

For this limited purpose [quote miners will drop that opening phrase], I welcome the electoral situation in Dover [quote miners will end the sentence here], because it's in an out-of-the-way place involving only a local school board, so the loss is relatively harmless, but the lesson to be learned is vital. I hope the Republican party not only learns the lesson, but that we start applying the lesson immediately. If not, conservatism is going to be swept aside, like the idiotic school board in Dover.

17 posted on 11/12/2005 5:54:14 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Expect no response if you're a troll, lunatic, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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