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To: rhema; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ..
So it's not so much any specific content that they've been taught. It's not a particularly charismatic brand of teachers who have gripped them with a vision. Nor is it that the Quran has proven so convincing. Instead, it's a grim and empty life experience they've inherited that prompts them to claim a religious adherence whose meaning has primarily to do with what they don't have in life.

Secular societies CANNOT exists for long. Europe will be a religious continent one way or another. Now Europeans can chose which religion it will be, later it the choice will be made for them.

Pray, get on your knees, ask God for forgiveness. Reserve time for the church services each week. Put family first, study Bible/catechism/Fathers of the Church together with your children. Have two children instead of one, three instead of two.

Otherwise, you grandchildren if you have any will study Koran and Hadith

5 posted on 11/12/2005 5:12:03 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole

Secular societies cannot last - you are correct. There will always be a religion of one kind or another either created by God or created by man (see Marx / Engels for further enlightenment).

When you believe in nothing except for yourself (how DO you get up out of bed in the morning), then everyone's belief is as good as yours and just as applicable. The cannibal's viewpoint is as valid as the dinner's. The looter is as acceptable as the creator. The storekeeper is no more moral than the armed robber.

The Church is undergoing its renewal first under JPII and now Benedict. Back, as you say, to the roots. No more wishy washy neo Marxist liberalism. No more abortion clinics operating out of Catholic schools and universities. Immorality is not simply another viewpoint.

Morality is objective. And real. We are paying the cost of ignoring this both here, and even more dearly in Europe.


14 posted on 11/12/2005 6:48:07 AM PST by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: All; A. Pole; jb6; GarySpFc; sergey1973; Wiz; Polak z Polski; Kitty Mittens; LUV W; Chgogal; ...

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“Many debate eto fore little number is left. Tribes of Ishmael will break their bones we in my country and other countries are not easy of anger; eto fore our old blood will come and all differences will be aside and then….total war of which this humanity have not seen; we will destroy them Tribes of Ishmael. People whom never was born in countries of Europe fore Europe is continent intero stupid EU is still many countries in it; will never understand countries in Europe.


Prepare yourself for this conflict is about to escalate. You can not depend on man alone eto fore His Majesty Majesty of Majesty of Israel will intervene infore to safe humanity from self-destruction.

Politicians have lost their balance of right and wrong; humanity have lost balance of right and wrong eto fore have hope for in despair you find best friend.

Gentlemen and ladies this is war; this is not a theater nor Crime and Punishment nor War and Peace eto fore many more; this is reality wake up and stand up and fight. Grazie mille.”
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thank you all/Dzieki wam


22 posted on 11/12/2005 8:10:45 AM PST by anonymoussierra ("Credite amori vera dicenti - Believe love is speaking the truth. (St. Jerome)")
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To: A. Pole

Or the children will be black belts and Olympic class shooters. There ARE secular alternatives.


27 posted on 11/12/2005 9:08:53 AM PST by GSlob
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