[2ndreconmarine]

Excellent, excellent article.

It made real sense. I liked in particular the ProMed references, although I was not able to locate the specific citations by number.

The most important point was that the operational mode of the H5N1 is different from other flu viruses. As a direct consequence, treatments for some types of flu actually make Avian worse

Specifically, elderberry or Sambucol makes it worse, because it strengthens the "cytokine storm" immune response, which is the very mechanism for Avian pathology. Therefore, we might want to modify blam's list:

Star Anise......... perhaps, but may require procesing
Ginseng............ OK
Sauerkraut/kinchi.. actually makes it worse!!!
Licorice........... OK
Grape juice........ use Resveratrol instead
Cinnamon........... OK
Elder berries......(Sambucol) actually makes it worse

Now we need to add:
Vitamin C
Garlic
Green Tea, probably need the extract
St. Johns Wort
Cat's Claw, as a last resort
Curcumin / Turmeric
Scutellaria

[blam]

"Sauerkraut/kinchi.. actually makes it worse!!!"

Dang it! Now, what am I gonna do with all the sauerkraut? Wouldn't it still help to keep me from getting the flu?

[steve86]

I would stick with my original contention to take Elderberry to avoid infection in the first place, then immediately discontinue if the system is overwhelmed and symptoms begin to emerge. In other words, take it prophylactically not as treatment. It is at that point I would switch to Tamiflu and amantadine.