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GOP Stayed Home in Calif. Vote
newsmax ^ | Friday, Nov. 11 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/11/2005 12:39:55 PM PST by VU4G10

Two years ago, more than 70 percent of Inland California voters supported the recall of former Calif. Gov. Gray Davis – while majorities of voters also backed Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s election.

That same Republican bastion, which includes Riverside and San Bernardino counties, didn’t come through at the ballot box this week, party officials said Thursday.

In fact, voter turnout in those key counties was among the lowest in the state, according to a report in the Riverside Press-Enterprise.

Critical Riverside and San Bernardino counties are among the fastest-growing in the state – a region where the number of registered voters has increased by more than 260,000 since fall 2002. Republicans outnumbered Democrats there by more than 120,000, according to a tally last month.

In past elections, the Inland area was a cornerstone of GOP strategy, and the resounding failure of the governor’s propositions this past Tuesday has local Republicans worried about 2006, according to the Press-Enterprise. "When your own people don’t show up, you’ve got a heck of a problem,” said Professor Jack Pitney, who teaches government at Claremont McKenna College.

California Republican Party spokeswoman Karen Hanretty said officials will examine turnout in the Inland area. The party wants to know the particulars of the Republican vote - data that will become available when officials finish their canvass later this month.

Kevin Jeffries, chairman of the Riverside County Republican Party, concluded that it’s easier to rally voters around a candidate than around complicated ballot propositions, adding that only half as many volunteers helped get out the vote for Tuesday’s election as were mustered for last year’s presidential contest.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; election; gop; schwarzenegger; zulutroll
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To: Paloma_55

Additional information; Riverside had a 37% turnout. Placer had a 52% turnout.

The liberal Republicans showed once again that they will stab the party in the back when the chips are on the table.


61 posted on 11/11/2005 7:29:29 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55

What makes you think Riverside County is a bastion of liberal Republicans?


62 posted on 11/11/2005 7:31:28 PM PST by Torie
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To: VU4G10

Must be the case - I don't think even California is so liberal that they would oppose allowing abortions without parental notification.


63 posted on 11/11/2005 7:32:34 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Torie

Didn't say that. Reread my post.


64 posted on 11/11/2005 7:33:38 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: All

There are Republicans in California?


65 posted on 11/11/2005 7:33:47 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: VU4G10

A turnout to match the turnout in California as a whole in Riverside and San Bernadino counties, would have changed no result. This whole thread is built on false premises from soup to nuts. That is my opinion.


66 posted on 11/11/2005 7:34:13 PM PST by Torie
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To: Paloma_55

Well, you claim that liberal Republicans didn't vote, and did it in the context of Riverside and San Bernadino Counties, so help me with some of this.


67 posted on 11/11/2005 7:35:30 PM PST by Torie
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To: Republican Wildcat
Must be the case - I don't think even California is so liberal that they would oppose allowing abortions without parental notification.

The argument made on the TV commercials and debate was that parents did not want their poor young girls to use a coat hanger because she might be afraid to ask them for permission.

Now, the fact that any of those pro-child-killing parents could have easily written their little angels a waiver that eliminated their concern was apparently irrelevant.

There was blatant lying done on the TV ads. This is a problem in my opinion, but I don't know how to deal with it. Apparently, it is OK to flat out lie on a political ad.
68 posted on 11/11/2005 7:36:58 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: elbucko
Sponsoring right-minded initiatives do not mean that the governor moved to the right

Shoo...that makes so little sense I don't know where to begin. I'm beyond words.

Glad I don't live in California. With "conservatives" like this, you deserve to be ignored and you deserve to live with the consequences of what is going to happen as a result of this vote.

69 posted on 11/11/2005 7:37:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Torie

I did not say Riverside was a "bastion of liberal Republicans". What part of that do you not understand?


70 posted on 11/11/2005 7:37:58 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: calvo

Private sector unions have largely been killed off, certainly in California. Unions are a public employee enterprise largely now (or state sanctioned utility monopolies where such still exist), and that is because government is a legalized monopoly, and impervious to the forces of competition. Thus unions can extract more than that required to attract competent employees (or incompetent ones via the spoils and quota system( without the employer tanking. I hope that helps.


71 posted on 11/11/2005 7:40:12 PM PST by Torie
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To: Republican Wildcat

Arnold is well established as a small-l libertarian.

This means, he registers Republican, supports tax cuts and fiscal restraint, but when it comes to abortion and homosexual priviledges, he is supportive.

True conservatives do not agree with Arnold on the social issues.


72 posted on 11/11/2005 7:40:20 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55

Why don't you lay out your thesis in clear short Anglo Saxon words, so the mentally challenged such as myself can understand it? Just a suggestion.


73 posted on 11/11/2005 7:41:22 PM PST by Torie
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To: VU4G10

Not surprising. Conservatives stayed home in New Jersey too.

The Gubernator is not an effective spokesman for the Right wing in America. He is soft on illegal invaders and anti-Second Amendment. He's pretty much of a RINO - fiscally conservative and socially liberal. At least that's my take.

How anybody could have voted they did in Kalipornia over those initiatives totally escapes me - but then that's why I call it Kalipornia.


74 posted on 11/11/2005 7:41:39 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

The initiatives failed because Californians have a peculiarly avaricious taste for porn eh? This thread is just so je ne sais qua.


75 posted on 11/11/2005 7:45:16 PM PST by Torie
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To: Mogollon
Just goes to show if you want to keep your conservative base voting for you

And here I thought the election was about voting issues up or down, not voting for or against politicians. Does this mean that Conservatives in California would have voted YES in droves if the issues were exactly the same but had been proposed by Governor Tom McClintock?

76 posted on 11/11/2005 7:45:26 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: calvo

" The only protections we have had from giant corporations throughout history are labor unions."

Hey Calvo....what protection does the Ca. taxpayer have against the unions extorting $$ for their own selfish purposes. The union thugs are not exactly paragons of virtue in this regard. Think of union dues as a tax feeding off the hard work of its members to feed it's own piggish appetite. Screw the unions, robbing b@stards they are.


77 posted on 11/11/2005 7:51:40 PM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: VU4G10

I voted, but without any great enthusiasm for some reason.


78 posted on 11/11/2005 7:55:31 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: cgk

Well, failing to vote is the dumbest way of expressing the 'they are not being conservative enough' sentiment.

There was a shot for conservatives to stifle the power of unions in California. That opportunity is now lost, and the liberals have more power.


79 posted on 11/11/2005 7:59:29 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Torie

No. The initiatives failed because the Kalipornians - or at lesat the majority of liberal Kalipornians - have lsot all sense of decency and perspective.


80 posted on 11/11/2005 8:00:45 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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