Torture serving Justice. That is the most distorted attempt at logic I have seen in a long time.
Tell me then, what would constitute justice for OBL and KSM?
So then, I have to ask. If it was your loved ones lives on the line, would you refuse to accept information that would save their lives, if in order to get that information, you had to smack someone around, use the techniques I described, but not killing them or doing any permanent damage? Or would you sit there, proud in your moral self-righteousness, and let your loved ones die? You represent a kind of person similar to another kind I have yet to run into in my life. A person who is against the death penalty who has had a loved one brutaly murdered. I have yet to meet someone who is opposed to all forms of psychological and minimal physical techniques, to save someone, even someone they love personally. What the CIA and military does is not torture, what the terrorists does, IS. And if the CIA is doing something like that to the terrorits, the fact still remains, they have NO protections under the Geneva Conventions, as they are ununiformed terrorists and have no protections and can be shot on sight. The terrorists we have captured are only alive because we CHOSE not to shoot them on sight as the Geneva Conventions SAY WE SHOULD. Go read the Geneva Conventions and then tell me what protections the terrorists have.