[LPM1888]

The Fact that you would attempt to use the good name of the American Veterans who fought to keep us Free by defeating nations who used torture as a means to an end is repugnant on any day. But to do so on Veterans Day is the ultimate disrespect of their sacrifices for us all. You should hang you head in shame and beg to be forgiven.

[Txsleuth]

You really need to come down off that high-horse you have mounted...jeezlouise..

I think there are probably as many meanings of terrorists on this thread, as there are posters...and the same with torture...

To ME---having a private part pierced would be torture..and yet there are teenagers that do it for kicks...

Putting panties on someones head is what we did at Girl Scout camps when I was 10...and everyone laughed...and yet you act like our country should be swallowed up because some idiots did that...idiots that have been court-martialed.

As far as secret prisons...unfortunately, because of traitors and democrats, there WERE secret prisons. I for one, am disappointed they were leaked... I HOPE our government is doing things to keep our country safe..that doesn't have to have the scrutiny of the stupid MSM...

and idiots like Kerry, Kennedy, McCain and YOU passing judgement every single day!

[Allen H]

That doesn't even make any sense! 8) I hate to burst your bubble, but are you aware of the fact that OVERWHELMINGLY veterans have NO PROBLEM with the things I'm talking about, and that those who were POWs, WISH that the extent of their torture was as benign as what I am describing? You are trying to make a blanket comment about veterans, of which I have numerous in my family and know many others which aren't family that are friends, and they do NOT agree with your premise. Not be a long shot.

Your continued self righteous arrogance is really amazing. You suggest that I "hang my head in shame", yet what have you ever done for Vets? My father did four tours in Vietnam, and he feels the same as I, because he knows what REAL torture is, and what I have outline is NOT TORTURE. You continue to make insulting posts towards me and you STILL have not responded to ANY of the specific things I have posted to you, ONCE AGAIN, like in posts #107 and #114.

You don't respond to anything, you just make broad sweeping generalizations, and then you presume to know the mind of veterans. Hate to disappoint you, but most Veterans agree with what I'm saying. And ESPECAILLY on Veterans day this is appropriate because our Military is NOT made up of torturers like the terrorists are. Our miliary is made up of HEROS and PATRIOTS, and the things that I have described are time proven information extraction techniques, and there is nothing "torturous" about them. Name me one thing I listed that is "torture". Just one. For once respond DIRECTLY to something I said and quit reading off your moveon.org talking points sheet. 8) Your liberal mantras only go so far. If you can't prove what I say is wrong, how in the world can you believe what you say is right? Simply insulting me doesn't make you right, it just points out the hollow nature of your posts. 8)