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Ban the culture; it's the only way to protect schoolchildren from Christian lit
WORLD ^ | November 19, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 11/11/2005 2:33:01 AM PST by rhema

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To: AppyPappy

My mother is a second- grade teacher, and reads "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" to her class every year. It's a wonderful book, and I can't believe that these hypocritical fascists want to ban it just because it has a Christian message.


21 posted on 11/11/2005 6:01:26 AM PST by Chewie84
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To: Chewie84
because it has a Christian message.


huh?

You really have to go out on a limb just a bit to call it a "Christian" message.
good fights bad .... really , everyone knows that star wars is the real "Christian" stealth story.

obi wan dies but comes back stronger ...use the force luke ... you are my son ... sheeesh.

If it's "Christian" to simply look at the conflict between light and dark, good and bad and to question mans spot in the universe .... well .... those guys are totally out in the ozone ..
22 posted on 11/11/2005 6:20:21 AM PST by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: sure_fine; Dr. Eckleburg
have you knocked a liberal on its ass today?

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

23 posted on 11/11/2005 6:55:19 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: SkyPilot

"Intelligent, but totally without wisdom."

I think it's possible to be verbally facile without having any significant degree of intelligence.

If you talk smart, people will often presume you are smart (until you contradict them), but it ain't necessarily so.


24 posted on 11/11/2005 6:55:26 AM PST by dsc
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To: muawiyah

"Frankly, I think it's long overdue for Barry Lynn to leave America and go find someplace comfortable."

Like, say, the hottest regions of Hades.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 6:57:45 AM PST by dsc
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To: tet68

Yup. Notice how the ACLU wants to get all Christianity out the public life, but doesn't say 'boo' about Ramadan observance on public lands.

Some of Lewis's later children's books will make them froth at the mouth even more: The Silver Chair contains an eloquent critique of secularism, and The Last Battle portrays the Narnian Antichrist as a fake supported by secularists and the Calormenes (thinly disguised Muslims).


26 posted on 11/11/2005 7:54:45 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: dsc

I call them pseudo-intellectuals.


27 posted on 11/11/2005 7:57:13 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: rhema
"We are very much concerned that this will unleash a tidal wave of new censorship efforts by a variety of religious groups seeking to impose their sectarian viewpoints on all of the students in America's public schools."

But Barry has no problem with a variety of left wing athiest groups "seeking to impose their rsectarian viewpoints on all of the students in America's public schools." In fact, if you read again what Barry said you will realize that he is saying people whose beliefs are informed by their religious convictions have no place in the democratic process.

28 posted on 11/11/2005 8:43:56 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Alex Murphy
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.

Amen.

No king but Christ.

29 posted on 11/11/2005 9:54:06 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: rhema; Alex Murphy; nickcarraway
Along with Dickens, Shakespeare and Milton, we'd have to ditch this one, too --

"One of my most vivid memories is of coming back West from prep school and later from college at Christmas time. Those who went farther than Chicago would gather in the old dim Union Station at six o'clock of a December evening, with a few Chicago friends, already caught up into their own holiday gayeties, to bid them a hasty good-by. I remember the fur coats of the girls returning from Miss This-or-that's and the chatter of frozen breath and the hands waving overhead as we caught sight of old acquaintances, and the matchings of invitations: "Are you going to the Ordways'? the Herseys'? the Schultzes'?" and the long green tickets clasped tight in our gloved hands. And last the murky yellow cars of the Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul railroad looking cheerful as Christmas itself on the tracks beside the gate.

"When we pulled out into the winter night and the real snow, our snow, began to stretch out beside us and twinkle against the windows, and the dim lights of small Wisconsin stations moved by, a sharp wild brace came suddenly into the air. We drew in deep breaths of it as we walked back from dinner through the cold vestibules, unutterably aware of our identity with this country for one strange hour, before we melted indistinguishably into it again.

"That's my Middle West — not the wheat or the prairies or the lost Swede towns, but the thrilling returning trains of my youth, and the street lamps and sleigh bells in the frosty dark and the shadows of holly wreaths thrown by lighted windows on the snow. I am part of that, a little solemn with the feel of those long winters, a little complacent from growing up in the Carraway house in a city where dwellings are still called through decades by a family's name. I see now that this has been a story of the West, after all — Tom and Gatsby, Daisy and Jordan and I, were all Westerners, and perhaps we possessed some deficiency in common which made us subtly unadaptable to Eastern life..."


30 posted on 11/11/2005 10:53:50 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: kstewskis

I love the wording... on ITS ass.


31 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:29 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: kstewskis

Lynn said, "We are very much concerned that this will unleash a tidal wave of new censorship efforts by a variety of religious groups seeking to impose their sectarian viewpoints on all of the students in America's public schools." but doesn't mind imposing censorship on anything remotely Christian. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


32 posted on 11/11/2005 1:20:38 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

It's a darned shame Barry missed out on the "tidal wave" at Aceh City.


33 posted on 11/11/2005 6:14:17 PM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: rhema

Barry Lynn has become the Salem witch hunter he so regularly claims he's against.


34 posted on 11/11/2005 6:34:14 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Chewie84

My mother is a second- grade teacher, and reads "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" to her class every year. It's a wonderful book, and I can't believe that these hypocritical fascists want to ban it just because it has a Christian message.

Several groups want to ban books that are offensive to them.


35 posted on 11/12/2005 10:07:17 AM PST by moog
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To: THEUPMAN

those guys are totally out in the ozone ..

Dang it! I thought I was alone out here:).


36 posted on 11/12/2005 10:07:51 AM PST by moog
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I wonder who would be against having a Watchtower Bible in the library.


37 posted on 11/12/2005 10:08:52 AM PST by moog
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To: MarkL

There is a book 'ya know? Did you not know that Anakin was going to become Vader before seeing Sith?


38 posted on 11/12/2005 10:11:15 AM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: rhema
"Such a clear gospel message, according to some civil libertarians, has no place in the public schools. Barry Lynn, director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, says, "This whole contest is just totally inappropriate because of the themes of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. It is simply a retelling of the story of Christ.""

Ever run into a person who seems to drain all the life out of something?

39 posted on 11/12/2005 10:12:46 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Jaysun
I will never understand why we allow these groups so much time at the microphone.
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Well Jaysun; have you ever driven through an accident scene and even though you don't want to you can't help but look at the victims.

Or how about when you start watching an incredibly stupid movie. You want to walk out of the theater but you can't help but keep watching to see what the hell will happen next.

I think it's kind of like that.
40 posted on 11/12/2005 10:30:17 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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