Traditional marriage under fire: Who's really to blame?

The Houston Chronicle ^ | November 10, 2005 | Daniel Allott

[HitmanLV]

Just joshin! ;-)

[hattend]

Medved is talking to the GLSN Right to Marry activist right now. They are making a strong push back against these states outlawing gay marriage.

[Melas]

Men are insane to marry in this culture as they have zero reproductive rights, zero rights to Visitation in Divorce, and only liabilities.

Spoken like a man who knows absolutely nothing about marriage. You should really pose these theories to a man who's been happily married for a decade or more. As one myself, I can only say that it's a sad misunderstanding of marriage you have.

[blaise]

well for one thing, don't hook up with someone in vegas and go to an allnight wedding chapel, know who you are marrying so as to avoid a DREADFUL BRIDE ; ) (being as you live there)

Yah - getting married by Elvis isn't usually a good start... ;)

[Melas]

Now that was spoken like a guy who has a clue. You hit just about every nail that time. Nothing can ram home the sancity of marriage like a failed one. I know, it happened to me in a marriage that started to fall apart almost immediately after the I do's. As a result, I was infinitely more careful before asking my 2nd and current wife to marry me. Unlike the first time out, this one has endured, and grown over the years. I couldn't be happier.

[blaise]

Medved is talking to the GLSN Right to Marry activist right now. They are making a strong push back against these states outlawing gay marriage.

Wonder if they'd have the guts to outlaw divorce...

[little jeremiah]

later pingout.

[HitmanLV]

I agree 100%. I'm sorry to hear you went to law school though. :-)

PS - I'm a lawyer who doesn't practice anymore, so its a lawyer on lawyer joke, nothing more! ;-)

[HitmanLV]

I agree 100%. I'm sorry to hear you went to law school though. :-)

PS - I'm a lawyer who doesn't practice anymore, so its a lawyer on lawyer joke, nothing more! ;-)

[hattend]

The homos or the states?

[Melas]

Marrying the wrong person is grounds enough for divorce. When someone says they want to stop no-fault divorce, I imagine the years and years of hell I'd have lived, and still have ahead of me if I were shackled to my first wife. Provided I didn't take the easy way out and just blow my brains out to escape. Divorce is the best thing that ever happened to me. If it weren't for divorce, I'd have never been able to undo that near-tragic error in judgement. I'd have never met the love of my life. I wouldn't have beautiful children. I would just be in hell.

[HitmanLV]

Thanks. I like to think I usually have a clue, though people in my life insist I misplace it all the time! ;-)

I am glad things worked out for you the second time, amigo.

[Melas]

then people would think long and hard before entering into the marriage contract.

Wrong. Young people would still be stupid. The notion that the young and invincible (in their own minds) would show maturity beyond their years is just poppycock.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"The only way to preserve marriage and family is to remove it from the purview of female influence. "

Well, good luck with that. I'm pretty sure I can speak for every female I know, and we're not going back to arranged marriages, no matter how hard you wish upon a star. *Snort*

[HitmanLV]

Wow. That's remarkably off base.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Welcome to FR, BTW. You don't happen to be advocating Gay Marriage and signed up today to take some quotes back to DU, did you?

Just checking. :)

[hattend]

Medved is ripping this GLTF guy's debate/premise to pieces.

[nickcarraway]

Isn't the opposite in some ways? The views most women have held about marriage etc. have dissolved to a large degree, and that has had a huge impact on society.

[familyop]

Marriage is allowed and sustained for rich folks. I say that as one who is far more socially conservative than most of you. Allow families to survive (without the huge number of social programs that smack families down for the divorce/cohabitation industry), and families will help your economy. Break them to keep them in slavery, and you'll lose.

[GSlob]

Females had quite a say about it - witness even medieval ["patriarchal" if there ever were ones] laws about female title to dowries and inheritances.