and torture is punishmentWrong. Failure. Grade: F.
You don't get it.
You lose the contest.
Buzzer for you.
Trap door under your feet.
Go to the corner; put on a duncecap.
Torture to gain information from scumbags who want to kill as many innocent Americans as they possibly can is not punishment of scumbags, but protection of innocent Americans.
I'm really beginning to question your motives here.
But if we have the right to torture people we arrest, then they have the right to torture us. So if some American boy gets tortured somewhere, and I hear you getting all indignant, then I'm going to be very disappointed in you. I should add that I take my cue in all this from the one politician in the picture who actually was tortured.