[goldstategop]

Nope. The message they sent Tuesday is we like reform as long as its talk. But if threatens everything we hold near and dear we'll bitch slap it down. No politician is going to take the voters that seriously again. They don't mean it.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[GOP_1900AD]

Correct. The majority in California (due to a supermajority in the coastal urban zones) are addicted to the teat of the welfare state. Most people here would fit right in in Europe.