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Mark Steyn: It’s the demography, stupid
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 11/12/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/10/2005 6:06:25 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: goldstategop

Paragraphs, please?


101 posted on 11/10/2005 9:47:00 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: daviddennis
Well, Mark was wrong. Yes, it really exists, but it's 822 pages, not 823. Maybe he got an English edition or something.

ROFL!

102 posted on 11/10/2005 10:03:31 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


103 posted on 11/10/2005 10:09:54 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Pokey78
Let’s take that evasive media characterisation of the rioters — ‘youths’ — at face value. What is the salient point about youths? They’re youthful. Very few octogenarians want to go torching Renaults every night. It’s not easy lobbing a Molotov cocktail into a police station and then hobbling back on your Zimmer frame across the street before the searing heat of the explosion melts your hip replacement. Civil disobedience is a young man’s game.

Still LMFAO after reading this gem. Semper Fi and Happy Birthday Fellow Marines!

104 posted on 11/10/2005 10:33:31 AM PST by LavaDog (U.S. Marines ... Best Friend ... Worst Enemy)
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To: Tax-chick
Very interesting perspective.

Look at the physical map of Japan and density of population. They must preserve the food production as a matter of national survival. Domestic food production is much more critical for Japan than fuel is for USA.

Those who want to destroy Japan cannot find better way than opening Japanese markets for free food imports and opening borders of Japan for mass immigration.

105 posted on 11/10/2005 10:43:01 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: MadIvan

Good for you - but you're always welcome here!


106 posted on 11/10/2005 10:45:59 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: alwaysconservative
Is it my imagination, or is Steyn getting glummer (or at least more nihilistic) as he writes about Eurabia?

No, it's not your imagination at all. However it's not nihilism you detect but realism. He is aware that Europe will not take the necessary steps to reverse course, and that indeed, even if they would, the appropriate time to do so has long since passed. Europe, as we know it, is a dead man walking...

the infowarrior

107 posted on 11/10/2005 10:59:23 AM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Pokey78

Steyn Rocks BTTT


108 posted on 11/10/2005 11:07:31 AM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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To: Pokey78
Was it Timothy Garton Ash or Will Hutton who suggested that giant space monkeys might suddenly descend and eat Cleveland?

Better space monkeys than muzzies.

109 posted on 11/10/2005 11:18:25 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: daviddennis

I used to write French poetry when I was much younger. My excuse was that I was a self-pitying phase of being a teenager, when reveling in my own melancholia was to be expected. I would be humiliated if someone discovered my awful, pedantic stuff, but M. de Villepin chooses to publish his for all the world to see (and mock).


110 posted on 11/10/2005 11:26:16 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Well, alrighty then!)
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bump


111 posted on 11/10/2005 11:36:00 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: MadIvan

Good choice mate...

Then again, a lot of dutch people have started to appear in the country your grandfather left.

I am afraid they are only bying time though...

I think I'll join you in Australia...


112 posted on 11/10/2005 11:48:53 AM PST by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Pokey78
"I’ve got three kids under the age of ten, and it seems to me that by the time they’re in young adulthood a lot of the places I know and love — including, believe it or not, France — will be a lot less congenial, if not lost for ever. I’m in this thing for me and mine....And so are you. And, if you reckon you’re not, you’d better be a childless centenarian in the late stages of avian flu. Unless you act, you’re going to lose your world."

This pretty much sums up our future.
113 posted on 11/10/2005 12:58:33 PM PST by mojito
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To: daviddennis

You just gave the folks a brilliant idea for informnation extraction from the Cicadas, who are held at those "black sites in Eastern Europe" that the CIA leaked to the Washington Post.

Use the music that Laura Ingraham uses for "Thought of the Day" as background, and hire someone who can read the poetry in perfect accented French!


114 posted on 11/10/2005 2:20:13 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.


115 posted on 11/10/2005 3:11:26 PM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?"- Not "Will you clean toilets cheap?")
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To: Pokey78
If Steyn keeps this up, he is going to be the Mark Twain of our times.

...the flowery-furrowed M. de Villepin...

...You right-wing sh!t-for-brains think everything’s about jihad...

...if you and your infidel whore happen to be lying there wearing nothing but two coats of Ambre Solaire when they show up...

...more elderly white Catholic ethnic frogs will have croaked...

...the hegemonic lardbutt...

...giant space monkeys might suddenly descend and eat Cleveland...

...Some kill Dutch film-makers and some complain about Piglet coffee mugs on co-workers’ desks, and millions of Muslims don’t do any of the above but apparently don’t feel strongly enough about them to say a word in protest.

...the chewing gum to make Arab men susceptible to the seduction techniques of Jewesses...(that's my brand)

116 posted on 11/10/2005 3:29:07 PM PST by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: Pokey78
Shall we post poetry for Mr Steyn? Well, since he brought the subject up I can't resist posting a great poem that applies quite well to the French dilemma.

The Second Coming -- W. B. Yeats


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

117 posted on 11/10/2005 3:41:46 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: LavaDog
Lavadog:
United States Marine Corps, 1942-1946. Third Division, 9th marines.

Good evening and the very best to you and yours.

Semper Fi
Tommie

118 posted on 11/10/2005 3:42:24 PM PST by Texican (An)
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To: Pokey78; xsmommy
Gosh, I love Steyn. My favorite part:

European citizens should recognise that the governing class has failed, that the conventional wisdom has run its course, and that it is highly unlikely that those culturally confident Muslims will wish to assimilate with anything as shrivelled and barren as contemporary European identity. Donald Rumsfeld, a man confined to the enclosures of thought, likes to say that weakness is a provocation. And for the last two weeks that’s all the French state has projected.

There is even a Rummy line..........

119 posted on 11/10/2005 3:45:31 PM PST by tioga
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To: tioga

: ) love steyn; love rummy.


120 posted on 11/10/2005 3:46:31 PM PST by xsmommy
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