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To: highball; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; connectthedots

It's not emotional.

It's objective.

Those are the steps He gave. Follow them.

Think about it. We are saying that a dead man rose again and stayed that way. That means He's alive according to us, doesn't it?

It is as if I told you that treasure is buried in a local field. How would you prove that I'm telling the truth?

Lot's of circumstantial things might point to the truth. Perhaps I'm known as an honest man. Perhaps I've been seen spending more than I should really have. Maybe those who are my friends have all been sporting fancy garments and big cars.

But, for you, the ultimate proof is digging up the field, isn't it?

Some would "sell everything that they have and buy that field."


800 posted on 11/14/2005 2:34:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

It is an emotional appeal.

That doesn't make it bad - it just is what it is.

It's not "proof" of anything, but that's what faith is. My only objection comes when that faith gets confused with something else, like scientific evidence.

I'm glad that you feel so strongly that your faith is correct. But everyone has those feelings about their faiths. Those feelings don't make their faith the One True Faith and yours wrong, or vice versa.


801 posted on 11/14/2005 2:48:06 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xzins
But, for you, the ultimate proof is digging up the field, isn't it?

DUH!

Hire a good archaeologist and do a little remote sensing. Find out if there is anything there in no time! Hardly any digging at all.

You stuck in the last century or what?

808 posted on 11/14/2005 8:57:49 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: xzins
What a beautiful exhortation, dear brother in Christ!!!

Those are the steps He gave. Follow them.

Think about it. We are saying that a dead man rose again and stayed that way. That means He's alive according to us, doesn't it?

It is as if I told you that treasure is buried in a local field. How would you prove that I'm telling the truth?

Indeed. The path you have laid out at 781 and described with this metaphor is the only way to meet Him. The path is objective - the same for anyone and further, knowing Him is not emotion.

Christ is alive. You and I know Him on a personal basis and are alive in Him and He is alive in us. I've known Him for nearly 46 years now - and I'm sure you've walked with Him a long time also.

His revelations - whether by bringing Scripture alive in us or by His indwelling - are more certain to us than any other kind of knowledge. We trust Him above all our sensory perceptions, His presence is known in every detail of our lives. He takes care of us, we follow Him. We sense being alive in timelessness while yet in the flesh.

But those who do not know Him in this way could not understand Spiritual revelation. To them, the Scriptures can be no more than an ancient manuscript and knowledge derives from sensory perception.

809 posted on 11/14/2005 9:27:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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