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To: highball; xzins
And no, eyewitness testimony from people with a vested interest in the outcome doesn't count.

Considering that the eyewitnesses were tortured and killed because they refused to recant their testimony, I'd say that your refusal to accept their testimony is unreasonable.

Will you accept the circumstantial evidence? The refusal to recant in light of torture and execution is circumstantial evidence of the veracity of their testimony. The fact that rumors were spread that the disciples stole the body and that Christ was still alive when placed in the grave is circumstantial evidence which confirms the eyewitness testimony that the grave was empty.

Your refusal to even consider the eyewitness testimony is evidence that you will refuse to accept any evidence whatsoever. In that case it would be impossible to prove anything to you.

774 posted on 11/14/2005 8:39:51 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Ask any lawyer - eyewitness testimony is spectacularly unreliable.

Try again - hardly the "proof" that he asserted.


776 posted on 11/14/2005 8:48:00 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: P-Marlowe; highball

And if the disciples didn't steal the body, then the authorities would have taken them to the grave and proven that the body was still there.

They didn't do that because the body was missing.

This circumstantial evidence verifies the account of the eyewitnesses.

Incidentally, those who give their lives for saying that they saw something that they did see does not invalidate their account because they were interested in the outcome.

Does a soldier who gives his life for his country have his testimony invalidated if he records that he is an American, and that his country is the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Are we to discount his testimony because he is an American?

Wouldn't an American know best? And especially one who is willing to give his life for his belief.


779 posted on 11/14/2005 9:12:20 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe; highball

And if the disciples didn't steal the body, then the authorities would have taken them to the grave and proven that the body was still there.

They didn't do that because the body was missing.

This circumstantial evidence verifies the account of the eyewitnesses.

Incidentally, those who give their lives for saying that they saw something that they did see does not invalidate their account because they were interested in the outcome.

Does a soldier who gives his life for his country have his testimony invalidated if he records that he is an American, and that his country is the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Are we to discount his testimony because he is an American?

Wouldn't an American know best? And especially one who is willing to give his life for his belief.


780 posted on 11/14/2005 9:12:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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