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To: P-Marlowe
Exodus 21:16 actually refers to kidnapping.

Yeah, right. I missed the word kidnap anywhere in there. "Steal a man" is an awfully strange way of referring to kidnapping, and a completely natural way of referring to the stealing of slaves. I don't get why you are trying to twist it? You are completely comfortable with God having approved of slavery, right?

501 posted on 11/10/2005 11:22:49 PM PST by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Thatcherite; AndrewC
"Steal a man" is an awfully strange way of referring to kidnapping, and a completely natural way of referring to the stealing of slaves.

It may be a "strange way " of referring to kidnapping, but that is what it refers to.

Deu 24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust. (1Ti 1:8-11 KJV)

You are completely comfortable with God having approved of slavery, right?

By what standard do you judge God? Are you holier than God?

503 posted on 11/10/2005 11:39:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Thatcherite
"Steal a man" is an awfully strange way of referring to kidnapping

"Kidnapping" means Child stealing. It also refers to "man stealing".

Word History: Appropriately enough, kidnapper seems to have originated among those who perpetrate this crime. We know this because kid and napper, the two parts of the compound, were slang of the sort that criminals used. Kid, which still has an informal air, was considered low slang when kidnapper was formed, and napper is obsolete slang for a thief, coming from the verb nap, “to steal.” Nap is possibly a variant of nab, which also still has a slangy ring. In 1678, the year in which the word is first recorded, kidnappers plied their trade to secure laborers for plantations in colonies such as the ones in North America. The term later took on the broader sense that it has today. The verb kidnap is recorded later (1682) than the noun and so is possibly a back-formation, that is, people may have assumed that a kidnapper kidnaps.

505 posted on 11/10/2005 11:45:46 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Thatcherite

In the Old Testament there is much that is unique to that covenant, but has no counterpart in the New Testament.


506 posted on 11/10/2005 11:53:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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