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Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
Tech Central Station ^ | 11/10/2005 | Uriah Kriegel

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:43:24 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin

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To: MindBender26
A Lifetime is 70 years +/-. (Much less in Biblical times)
Methusela... 969 years
661 posted on 11/11/2005 12:20:47 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: atlaw

You Hellbound spawn of evilutionary materialism!
Antitrust is just a theory! Didn't Hitler and Stalin use anti-trust?!! It takes more faith to believe in antitrust than it does to....

(do I even need sarcasm tags? lol)


662 posted on 11/11/2005 12:22:43 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

lol!


663 posted on 11/11/2005 12:33:39 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ml1954
"Exodus 20 says God created the universe in 6 days and Exodus 21 says slavery is OK with God. So why are 'christians' speaking out against slavery but whole heartedly supporting 6 day creation?"
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Please study the customs of that place and time.
A Hebrew could place himself in 'slavery' for period of time. Think of it as a work contract.
Jacob did it to obtain a wife.
Your making the mistake of equating the slavery that the Bible recognized (not condoned) with the slavery in America.
664 posted on 11/11/2005 1:38:08 PM PST by Stark_GOP
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To: Stark_GOP
A Hebrew could place himself in 'slavery' for period of time. Think of it as a work contract.

People entering a work contract seldom agree that they can be beaten to death.

665 posted on 11/11/2005 1:40:45 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

People entering a work contract seldom agree that they can be beaten to death.
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Cite?


666 posted on 11/11/2005 1:48:56 PM PST by Stark_GOP
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To: Stark_GOP; js1138

"People entering a work contract seldom agree that they can be beaten to death." (js1138)
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"Cite?"

Does he really need a cite for that?


667 posted on 11/11/2005 1:51:50 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Stark_GOP

Nice post number. Here's your citation.

When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property. (Exod. 21:20-21)


668 posted on 11/11/2005 1:55:47 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: highball
I'm only stating that a literal reading of the Bible, with its Young Earth cosmology, is not scientifically accurate.

The Bible does not teach that the earth itself is young, necessarily. It does teach that man has been on the planet for at least 6000 years. Genesis 1:1 states that God created the heavens and the earth. The very next verse, Genesis 1:2, indicates that the earth had become "waste and void" -- in other words, a wreck and a ruin. Something happened to the original earth that God made. God Himself did not create the earth waste and void (Isaiah 45:18). How long ago did God create the earth? The Bible does not say. What happened to the earth? The Bible gives us hints that the rebellion of Lucifer and probably a third of the angels was the cause for God's judgement and the subsequent catastrophic events that took place. How long did it remain in its wrecked state? Again, we are not told. We are simply told that at some point God moved to remake the earth, and that He did so in 6 days.

669 posted on 11/11/2005 2:01:53 PM PST by music_code (Atheists can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman.)
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To: Stark_GOP

I'm just curious why people receive eternal damnation for disbelieving the six days of creation, but remain blissfully ignorant of the rules for acquiring and beating their slaves.


670 posted on 11/11/2005 2:02:44 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: From many - one.
God's -word- is only a small part of the Bible...pretty much Sermon on the Mount, and 10 Commandments.

It is good to know that you accept the 10 commandments as being "God's Word." Now for the test. Do you really believe the 10 Commandments are "God's word"?

If so, then you must believe that "IN SIX DAYS" God "made the heavens and the earth and all that in them is."

Does that statement cause you any problem?

671 posted on 11/11/2005 2:03:26 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

"BD, it seems that comment was directed at you."

Couldn't be. He said creationists and I am ignorant of the
meaning of that term.


672 posted on 11/11/2005 2:08:22 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: P-Marlowe

Are you the Bible enforcer?

What's with all the insistence that we adopt *your* interpretation?


673 posted on 11/11/2005 2:08:36 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
Are you the Bible enforcer? What's with all the insistence that we adopt *your* interpretation?

I'm not insisting on anything. If you don't believe my interpretation, then give me yours. Instead what you are doing is casting doubt upon the veracity of God's word. IMO that is a dangerous thing to do. Better to err on the side of caution than to accuse the Almighty of spreading falsehoods.

Did not God himself write the words on the tablets of stone? Or did Moses make up all that malarkey simply to appease and subjugate the ignorant Israelites?

674 posted on 11/11/2005 2:14:39 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I hear the sound of someone desparately googling for a loophole. It doesn't work. During thos periods when Christians owned slaves they justified it with scripture, both Old and New Testament.

Several of the American Founders -- jefferson, Franklin, Payne -- wrote of their admiration of Quakers for their stand against slavery.

I find it interesting that the Christian denomination that rejects doctrine and creed was the first to notice the evils of slavery. I would say there is a correlation between fundamentalism and acceptance of slavery. Certainly the Muslims are having a hard time giving it up.


675 posted on 11/11/2005 2:14:53 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I think it is very plausible to believe that some elements of the Bible might be true, others might be parable, and still others might have been made up by any number of the men who wrote and re-wrote and re-wrote the Bible.

The "either it's all true or it's all a lie" approach you seem to be advocating is odd to me, considering that at least some of it is acknowledged to be a parable.


676 posted on 11/11/2005 2:17:00 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ml1954

God does not condone sin, but that doesn't stop Him from giving numerous ways for the Israelites to deal with it. He does not condone slavery, but it exists, as sin does, in man's societies. Furthermore He set aside rules and years in which all slaves had to be freed.


677 posted on 11/11/2005 2:17:26 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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To: Thatcherite; P-Marlowe

"How can I trust someone who only behaves because he is frightened of a God that I don't believe in? What if you guys get a crisis of faith?"

If we had a crisis of faith then we would be no different than you, trusting ourselves as god, and that is more frightening than belief in the God of the scriptures who is open and honest about who He is and what He requires and the accounting that will last for eternity.


678 posted on 11/11/2005 2:20:29 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: highball

Did not God himself write the words on the tablets of stone?


679 posted on 11/11/2005 2:21:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
You'll pardon me if I don't accept a word that Madeline Murray O'Hair wrote.

Lol, a great historian and thinker

680 posted on 11/11/2005 2:22:24 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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