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I was amazed to find a particular within in the floor in a prominent position in England's National Church. It was Charles Darwin.

I've been there, and I've seen it. I think (but don't really know) that Darwin always regarded himself as Christian. He studied for the ministry, and was certainly devout as a young man. He did seem to have some doubts late in life.

Those who are always popping into these threads to babble that eeee-villl-uuuuu-shun is the direct road to atheism, sodomy, mass murder, communism, etc. can never quite deal with the exemplary life of Darwin. Or the thousands of biology teachers, scientists, etc. who don't exhibit the "inevitable" consequences that the anti-evos imagine will follow from learning science.

Not that such things are evidence for or against Darwin's work. A scientific theory stands or falls on the evidence for or against the theory. Darwin's biography is irrelevant. But he seems to have been a worthy gentleman of his generation.

But he seems to have been a worthy gentleman of his generation.

That could be true...dont know.

What constitutes being a christian vs being a Christian is totally different though.

Mat 7:13
"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

There will be many christians going to hell someday.

I think (but don't really know) that Darwin always regarded himself as Christian. He studied for the ministry, and was certainly devout as a young man. He did seem to have some doubts late in life.

I read a review of a Darwin biography which claimed that Darwin did indeed lose his faith towards the end of his life. Not for any reason directly connected with his scientific work but because of the untimely death of his favourite daughter.

Crevos in the UK are indeed a despised moonbat micro-minority. Oddly enough the only encouragement they have had has been from Blair, whose education policy allows rich evangelicals of robust creationist views (and inspired directly by the likes of the Discovery Institute) to endow State schools and enforce creationist teachings there. Such initiatives are small and failing however.

For some reason the guy from the DI (Mier?) was interviewed on R4 the other day. The interviewer was knowlegable and the IDer came accross as a complete idiot.

I've been there, and I've seen it. I think (but don't really know) that Darwin always regarded himself as Christian

He ended up as an agnostic in the end. But he did beleive in a designer.

"I've been there, and I've seen it. I think (but don't really know) that Darwin always regarded himself as Christian. He studied for the ministry, and was certainly devout as a young man. He did seem to have some doubts late in life."

Darwin lost most of his faith in about 1837-1838; in other words very shortly after he came home from his voyage. He was worried how his *freethinking* would affect his coming marriage with his future wife, as she was very devout. He did try to work out a way to keep some kind of theism, but found it harder and harder to do. For most of his adult life he would best bes described as agnostic. The entire question became less and less important to him as the years passed by.

What he did take from Christianity though was a deep respect for the moral teachings of Christ. That's why he could feel no qualms about donating money to his local church.

Of course, as you said, this is a fascinating but totally irrelevant biographical point. The ToE stands or falls not on the religious views of it's supporters but on the evidence for or against it.