CA: Schwarzenegger star dims after latest act falls flat with voters

ap on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/09/05 | Beth Fouhy - ap

[SierraWasp]

""His base is still united and firmly behind him," said Bill Whalen... But Whalen, who was an aide to former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson, said he didn't think..."

Alright, Norm, or anyone else who cares to advise... Just who really is "His Base?"

I sincerely would like an answer to that!!!

[goldstategop]

Nothing in particular. California is just a different place. Its like the Twilight Zone here.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[VU4G10]

The hottest place in hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of moral crisis.

[goldstategop]

Yes... I'm dying to learn who the Wilson Gang thinks Arnold's base is. The question is, does he even have one worth writing home about?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[phatoldphart]

Since the mid nineties, abortion has been a winner for CA dems. No matter what else may be on the ballot, any abortion issue will help kill the others.

I left in 2000 and then, in any election, abortion is all you heard. That's how the democrats got into and keep the power.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Its like the Twilight Zone here.

Don't bore me with the obvious.

[SierraWasp]

Well how in heck could it be the CAGOP who he openly boasts he has no responsibility to help in any way??? (as he appoints more Dem burearcrats in 2 years than Davis did in 5)

Then we get all these Party hacks on here, trying to hack off all those who choose to think, rather than march lock-step with non-thinking, Party somnambulistas... Geeze!!!

[FlingWingFlyer]

Arnold's mistake was believing people wanted to fix Sacramento. They don't.

That's where you nailed it.

[Czar]

"Arnold's mistake was believing people wanted to fix Sacramento. They don't."

Of course they want it fixed. Why do you think Davis was recalled?

The problem was Arnold. He failed to inspire the base, while the Rats went crazy getting everyone possible to the polls (wonder how many illegals were included). Arnold could have inspired the base if he had mounted an aggressive program of cost reductions and cuts shortly after taking office. Instead, he did nothing to fulfill any part of his campaign rhetoric. Finally, he got together his four initiatives which turned out to be confusing (76 & 77), and were too little/too late. By then, the base questioned Arnold's reform seriousness beause his two years in office mostly revealed him to be long on talk but short on action when it came to cost cutting (his interview statements about "we never want to cut anything" certainly didn't help). The fact is, the base simply didn't trust Arnold, so many didn't bother to go to the polls. That, combined with the Rat's nuclear spending anti-Arnold program, made the difference.

[Czar]

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[agooga]

You guys can argue about the strategy all you want, but it all boils down to one thing only: passion.

Who had the passion in this election? It was the unions and the Dems in a fight for their lives - versus - the semi-conservative "base" who apparently couldn't be bothered to put their Ink-A-Tron where their mouth is.

Yeah, yeah-- maybe AS should have got CA to vote on the props earlier, maybe he should have made them easier to understand, maybe he should have campaigned harder, better and faster-- blah, blah, blah.

But if just half a million more of the "base" got off their fat, stupid, lazy, pathetic asses, we'd be praising Shwartzenegger as a HERO right now.

For shame.

[Zack Nguyen]

What to say about a state that votes against the right of parents to know when their kids are about to abort their grandchildren? To me that is the saddest thing of all.

[stboz]

"Let's financially bleed the government employees unions to death!"

Works for me. Sounds a bit Patton-like. Make the other sonuvabitch die for HIS country.

The left has political AIDS, it just hasn't died yet.

[A CA Guy]

The left in California is a cancer that is attached to the state by unions of government employees and needs to be brought under control.

They vote people in who pay them off and they grow their job when we know dam well if we got rid of illegals in schools they could be cut in half.

If illegals are required to be in schools by law, get a big tent, put all the illegals under it with ONE teacher to learn English.

For too long our kids are being brought down by illegals.

The unions only have the monopoly if the government to survive on, they can NOT compete in the private sector anymore.

Yep, bleed them to death financially, then put a stake through their political heart and end them.

[A CA Guy]

It doesn't boil down to passion, the financial numbers also make a difference.
The left has to spend massive monies on lying ads to win because they can't run on who they are.
They borrowed their future on this election and more propositions are going to bury them within the next two elections.

That IMO is a good strategy and a cheap one on our part.

[FOG724]

Why the heck did we recall the Governor FOR, if we vote down all ARNOLD's attempts to fix anything?

Because Arnold isn't fixing anything, he is making it worse. Or hadn't you noticed?

[FOG724]

Alright, Norm, or anyone else who cares to advise... Just who really is "His Base?"

That is what I was wondering. It sure isn't conservatives.

[FOG724]

But if just half a million more of the "base" got off their fat, stupid, lazy, pathetic asses, we'd be praising Shwartzenegger as a HERO right now.

No we wouldn't. I voted against his crap.

[calcowgirl]

Alright, Norm, or anyone else who cares to advise... Just who really is "His Base?" I sincerely would like an answer to that!!!

That caught my eye too. Once "his base" is identified, maybe they can add what they stand for (other than just "winning")? We know it isn't 2nd amendment rights, or smaller government, or property rights, or traditional family values.

[NormsRevenge]

All aRnold's base are belong to dems. :-)

They voted him in in the Recall and now p'd all over him yesterday and likely will again in both rounds of elections next year.

Maybe he wasn't necessarily a Trojan Horse, more like a Crazy Horse thinking he could pull off an end run around those who elected him by running in the middle and then veering hard right.

All we know now is he is no Sea Biscuit