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To: WildHorseCrash

You are WRONG. Don't you DARE tell the CinC how to prosecute a war. Who do you think you are. You should be interned as well. They had no choice but to lock those people up until they could determine loyalties, and I would hope that any who stould in the way were summarily arrested.

I don't mean to start a flame war, I really don't. I was merely trying to express the depth of my belief that sophist-ical arguments over the rights of men have no place in a war for survival. There is no time for that, and I think there are entirely too many amateur lawyers squawking about this or that in this war as well, which I fear will lead to the same sort of paralysis we saw in NO and are seeing in France.

I mean no offense, I really don't.


58 posted on 11/09/2005 8:36:34 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, is not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: WildHorseCrash

p.s. We were LOSING the war in the Pacific for quite some time after Pearl Harbor.


61 posted on 11/09/2005 8:40:53 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, is not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
You are WRONG. Don't you DARE tell the CinC how to prosecute a war. Who do you think you are. You should be interned as well. They had no choice but to lock those people up until they could determine loyalties, and I would hope that any who stould in the way were summarily arrested.

Well, so long as we have the freedom of speech, the constitution gives me the right to dare tell the CinC how to do any damned thing I please... :-) I think that you are incorrect as far as the Japanese-Americans go, but we can agree to disagree.

I don't mean to start a flame war, I really don't.

Good. Nor do I.

I was merely trying to express the depth of my belief that sophist-ical arguments over the rights of men have no place in a war for survival. There is no time for that, and I think there are entirely too many amateur lawyers squawking about this or that in this war as well, which I fear will lead to the same sort of paralysis we saw in NO and are seeing in France.

My point with regard to the Japanese-Americans is that there are things which, even if they are effective, are illegitimate. If there are no limits on Governmental power exercised against the innocent, even in times of war and strife, then men have no rights and we are all subject to the whims of the Government, the State or the Collective whim.

With regard to the war on terror and the stuff in France, there it is a problem of not taking action against those who are not innocent. That is the real crux of the problem. The opponents of the current war and the pols in France don't want to take action against the guilty (or at least the suspicious), that, I agree with you whole heartedly, is a problem. But, the disinclination of the Government to bring down the hammer on innocent people is, in my view, an appropriate one.

80 posted on 11/09/2005 9:05:40 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: Great Caesars Ghost

The operative word here is "survival." There are no rights when a society's very survival is at stake. Hard choices must be made.


101 posted on 11/09/2005 9:52:08 AM PST by LS
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