[Palisades]

No one I've read mentioning discarding American ideals.

I see. Rounding up American citizens based on their religious/ethnic background and deporting native-born Americans is 100% in line with American ideals.

[Revolting cat!]

Your interpretation of the Constitution leads one to conclude that Constitution is indeed a suicide pact. You'll of course deny any such thing, just as strongly as the ACLU does, but declariations are empty, when arguments conflict, Conficius says.

Oh, and I shook hands with both Elvis Presley's uncle and Sam Philips' son!