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Kansas State Board Approves Teaching Standards Skeptical of Evolution
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| 11-08-05
| WestVirginiaRebel
Posted on 11/08/2005 4:10:06 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel
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To: blowfish
"Very good! Class, we will now hold an exorcism over Johnny's flask. Everyone join hands..." Uhhh, it's a gud thang yur nott arguin agin a straw-man or nuthin, shurloch.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:28:22 PM PST
by
jbloedow
To: jbloedow
What an absurd statement, and one that shows your lack of knowledge of the scientists you site. If you had read histories of people like Mendel, Darwin, Galileo you would realize that they could view the world as God's creation, but one that was governed by principles and laws that were their to be discovered.
They did not allow their faith to become a blinder in front of their eyes, unlike many of the people posting on this board.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:28:25 PM PST
by
blowfish
To: jbloedow
Hey, they just introduced mysticism into one science class, why not chemistry?...
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:29:58 PM PST
by
blowfish
To: DaveLoneRanger
Your naturalistic worldview does not account for the fact that we're here; that things work; that we exist in a state of being. Your naturalistic worldview does not account for the miracles of life that we witness every day. Every aspect of life is a miracle, just the fact that it works. You've grown so accustomed to it that you no longer see the splendor, majesty and design that nature bears.Sure, define everything as a miracle, and life is nothing but miracles.
That is why yours is such a sad opinion, much less existence.
Hmmm, I see you're sore about that truck I ran through your 'accelerated radioactive decay' post. Actually, it was fun; I had an intuition the numbers would come out like that, but I'd never done the calculation before, and gosh, they are impressive, eh?
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:30:28 PM PST
by
Right Wing Professor
(If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
To: Fashin God
Kansans have evolved.
Say NO to evilution theology.
To: IrishCatholic
If evolution is the final answer to the origin of life, then it will survive scrutiny. It will survive criticism. It will survive being questioned. No, no, no.... the only people who can be permitted into the hallowed halls of the scientific Hierarchy are those who accept the darwiniian dogma decisively.
Surely you know that is how knowledge advances? The very essence of education. The veritable litmus test of learning.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:32:07 PM PST
by
jbloedow
To: DaveLoneRanger
Every aspect of life is a miracle, just the fact that it works. Spoken like someone destined to be ruled by people who actually *do* understand how things work.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:32:26 PM PST
by
blowfish
To: IrishCatholic
Are you really Irish. I mean, from Ireland?
If evolution is the final answer to the origin of life, then it will survive scrutiny. It will survive criticism. It will survive being questioned.
Evolution doesn't say anything about the origin of life.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:32:29 PM PST
by
Right Wing Professor
(If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
To: blowfish
In this case, I think it would be alchemy.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:35:25 PM PST
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
To: blowfish
What an absurd statement, and one that shows your lack of knowledge of the scientists you site. Actually my scientific knowledge is extensive and thorough, despite your bland claims to the contrary.
Mendel and Darwin were not the founders of the scientific revolution, you ahistorical hick.
I'm referring, of course, to the likes of Newton, Hooke, Kelvin, Linnaeus. Not that I expect you to have heard of them.
I realize that Darwisinistas think any bloviating statement they make to advance their cause is ipso facto science, but I must insist on using a more traditional standard; in other words, things are not true just because you state them or wish them to be so. I know, I know, there I go with the mysticism again...
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:36:32 PM PST
by
jbloedow
To: jbloedow
Mendel and Darwin were not the founders of the scientific revolution, you ahistorical hick. Fine, whatever you say. However, I think you'd find an awful lot of biologists who would disagree with you.
Actually my scientific knowledge is extensive and thorough, despite your bland claims to the contrary.
Your posts here provide no evidence of this, but IDers aren't big on evidence, as I recall.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:39:56 PM PST
by
blowfish
To: WestVirginiaRebel
To the extent Evolution is a scientific theory, it's pretty irrelevant to everyday life anyway. Schools are dropping subject material either due to cost or to squeeze in more 'feel good' courses. There are many things that should have priority over the teaching of Evolution. No one would lose anything if it wasn't taught at all. To the extent it's used to advance a particular philosphy in the schools there is no reason it should not be critiqued. It's irrelevant if the arguments also happen to be used by ID proponents if the arguments and the questions brought up about it are valid. If the questions can't be adequately answered, this would suggest that perhaps the subject should not be taught, at least not as it is.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:41:06 PM PST
by
nosofar
To: jbloedow
Wow, good thing the highly religious scientists responsible for the scientific revolution didn't know about your radical, presuppositionally secularist, circular definition of science when they were coming up with the scientific revolution upon which everything you call science is built. Ping me when the Discovery Institute actually discovers something (other than that which Barnum already knew).
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:42:34 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: nosofar
Except perhaps for a hundred years' worth of scientific discovery.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:45:28 PM PST
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
To: nosofar
No one would lose anything if it wasn't taught at all.Except perhaps for a hundred years' worth of scientific discovery.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:45:48 PM PST
by
WestVirginiaRebel
(The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping.
I was just about to back away from my computer when I saw this. Had to ping it out.
Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.
To: WestVirginiaRebel
Kansas State Board Approves Teaching Standards Skeptical of Evolution About time!!!
I find it interesting that Freepers claim that they want both sides heard, discussed, debated, and disected but when people ask that the same standard applies in public school science classes, fair debate and discussion are suddenly verboten.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:48:26 PM PST
by
Tamar1973
(Palestine is the cancer; Israel is the cure!)
To: IrishCatholic
If evolution is the final answer to the origin of life, then it will survive scrutiny. Evolution address change in life since it developed, not its origin.
And evolution has already survived 150 years of scientific scrutiny. It was being supported in all of the scientific tests, so the folks in Kansas had to change the rules of science.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:49:19 PM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: blowfish
In addition, the board rewrote the standards' definition of science, so that it is no longer limited to the search for natural explanations of phenomena.This is an AP story.
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:49:51 PM PST
by
TheHound
(You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
To: WestVirginiaRebel
Except perhaps for a hundred years' worth of scientific discovery. And some great children's stories about things like how the giraffe got its neck, and that splendid horse evolution series, and that little gem called Piltdown Man, and those pepper moths in Manchester which evolved into ... pepper moths, and ...
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posted on
11/08/2005 4:52:38 PM PST
by
jbloedow
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