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1 posted on 11/08/2005 2:27:01 PM PST by jmc1969
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THIS IS SEEN BY ME AS A SIGN OF BETTER TIMES AHEAD FOR Iraq
and might be for GWB to. we should encourage this
2 posted on 11/08/2005 2:40:51 PM PST by munin ( I suport the war on muslim terror)
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Cautious thumbs up


6 posted on 11/08/2005 2:50:19 PM PST by kanawa
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being Ex military I believe that there are some up sides to this.... there will of course need to be a serious hard look at those returning but most career military love their country... not those in power. Its called patriotism.


7 posted on 11/08/2005 2:55:59 PM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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..."This chaos and mayhem in Iraq started because of [the] decision to dissolve the Army." ...



The veracity of this statement is not blindingly obvious.
Play a little "what if" with me ...

Suppose the US had NOT sent these Sunnis home.

Would the Sunni insurgency still have taken place? You can make a good case that that it still would have occurred, because all of the government officials were Sunni, not just the Army.

Would the Sunni army have attacked Sunni insurgents? Given the tribal basis of their society, you can make a good case that they wouldn't have ... or they would have warned the insurgents in advance of every movement.

Would the Shias have participated in the creation of a new government, where the Army was still Sunni? Remember, this Sunni army was the one that carried out Saddam's orders to use WMDs on the Kurds, and the one that slaughtered the Shias when they revolted after the 1st Gulf war. If not, then the Shias would be the leaders of the insurgency, with assistance from Iran.

Would the Shias have joined an Iraq army officered by the Sunnis? I don't think so, and so the Shias (e.g., As Sadr's army) would have joined the insurgency. I would much rather fight a minority (Sunnis) than the majority (Shias) in Iraq. Disbanding the Sunni Army was the price for not having a Sunni insurgency.

So ... I believe that the US carried out the least damaging strategy -- create a Shia-majority government and a Shia-majority army, then bring in some Sunni officers later.


9 posted on 11/08/2005 3:04:36 PM PST by Mack the knife
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This article's bias is glaring.

"fueled the rebellion"

What "rebellion." If they overturn the Coalition/Iraqi Alliance, what political platform do they have? They are thugs and terrorists.

"viceroy" Paul Bremer.

IIRC, viceroy means regional imperial commander.

"Christian" "Science"

Gimme a break. This article and the CS Monitor's general slant shows they do not deserve their name. They have neither the morals and dedication toward trush as true Christians do, nor do they have the rigorous challenge that science demands.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 3:51:49 PM PST by jdhighness
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