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Bill Clinton: Immigration Crackdown Hurting U.S.
NewsMax.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/08/2005 7:14:36 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

Ex-president Bill Clinton is arguing that tighter immigration laws are hurting America, saying the new restrictions aren't worth it even if they stop the "one out of a zillion [foreigners] who might have a bomb."

"I'm very worried that one of the consequences of our tightness on immigration and visas as a result of 9/11 and terror, has led to a drop in many places of the number of foreign students coming to the United States to study and be graduate students," Clinton told an audience at the University of Minnesota on Saturday.

He said the U.S. needed foreign students because "we are nowhere near graduating enough scientists and engineers to maintain, given the size of our economy, a leadership role in the global economy."

Clinton said the terror trade-off wasn't worth it.

"When we got real tough on visas - because one out of a zillion of them might have a bomb - we lost a lot of brains. We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains."

On another subject, the former president also praised actress Geena Davis, star of the new ABC Show "Commander in Chief."

"I did see one episode of 'Commander in Chief'," Clinton told the crowd. "Geena Davis is good for two reasons. She looked tough but not macho. She didn't look lion-tough. And she spoke Spanish. So I thought those two things were good."


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To: ThomasMore
tighter immigration laws are hurting America

Yeah, look at all the benefits open immigration laws have brought to France.

And we're next. Just wait for a recession/depression, when we will experience our own "Aztlan reconquista intifada."

81 posted on 11/08/2005 7:57:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

You know, this is THE one case where I might make a trade of an American citizen (Bill) for an illegal alien. At least the illegal alien will work.


82 posted on 11/08/2005 7:58:10 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

My university should be renamed "The Chinese University of the Eastern U.S." We are educating thousands of Chinese students (mainland) who then go back to China and hate us.

So, I respectfully disagree with our former President.


83 posted on 11/08/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by whitedog57 (Holland)
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To: doorgunner69

You are right. Without the illegals, a lot of Dems would not have been voted into office. That is how Bob Dornan lost his seat in California. And let's not forget about the ex-cons and dead people. Notice that Hillary and the Dems (and some disgusting Repubs as well) do not support federal legislation to make a picture ID required when someone votes. "Undue burden" on the citizenry. Hillary also wants every vote counted even if the voter screws up the ballot and no one can tell what the mess means. Voting is a privilege, not a right.


84 posted on 11/08/2005 7:59:42 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

So, says Clinton, we lose several buildings, several planes, and 3,000 innocent citizens ever so often.

It's well worth it! More important that we welcome persons from all over the world to cross illegally into the U.S. through our open borders.

Clinton's goal?

He is definitely vying for King of the World. His anti-American sentiments are coming through. That's why he thinks HIS WIFE would make a good President. To further the downfall of the U.S., and to assist him in his quest for President of the U.N.


85 posted on 11/08/2005 8:00:33 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: Dane; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Happy2BMe; Spiff; Pelham; Das Outsider; moehoward; ...
Ruh roh, what are those on FR, who for a year were touting hillary as the savior on immigration going to say now.

Or, in a sane world...

Ruh roh...loks like you OBL-ers have a REAL American backing you and the "Cult of Bush" in your quest for open borders and cheap lettuce! I guess you are real happy that Hillary and Bill are really on YOUR side in this issue, right? Makes your position so much more palatable and acceptable to Conservatives, huh?

See Dane; it's FUN when you demagogue!

But you already know that....

86 posted on 11/08/2005 8:01:17 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: jaaakemm

of course not. They are hypocrites all. Especially kenneeedeee who had his fortune laid in his lap. He's only where he is becuase of his brother.


87 posted on 11/08/2005 8:02:28 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: Carl/NewsMax
This smells like a pitch for money from the Chinese, etc. for his wifes future Presidential bid.......

This guy is so dumb he doesn't even know when his head is too far up his own arse.......I guess he just likes to feel the love.

88 posted on 11/08/2005 8:02:36 AM PST by thingumbob (Democracy is the best defense against terrorist/communist thugs!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Clinton is shilling for the Saudis: Saudis, Arabs Bankrolled Clinton Library
89 posted on 11/08/2005 8:03:17 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Williams

Terrorists will not use the southern Mexican/US border in which to infiltrate into America.

Any terrorist with half a brain will come across the northern Canadian/US border, considering the fact that he or she already has a built in network of disaffected Muslim jihadist cells living in Canada who will help hide and support said Muslim while he plans his trek across the border.

The flood of illegals coming across the southern border are, for the most part, uneducated scrufty types who seem to care little about becoming Americanized, or about politics, or about any of the issues we need to maintain a vibrant society.

They simply want jobs and money, and they've heard that they can live fairly high on the hog (govt. food, generous gringo's, etc) while seeking some type of living.

I like people of Spanish, Latin, Mexican heritage.

I just don't want my kids and grand kids to be forced into learning Spanish, or to be told that Cinqo de Mayo (or whatever it is) was the greatest of all days, or to be put in danger by any of the thousands of roving Latino gangs who, besides being mostly illegals, also deal drugs and threaten their neighbors.

Am I stereo-typing??

Why, I certainly am.

That's just the way it is.


90 posted on 11/08/2005 8:04:03 AM PST by Edit35
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To: Travis McGee
Yeah, look at all the benefits open immigration laws have brought to France. And we're next. Just wait for a recession/depression, when we will experience our own "Aztlan reconquista intifada."

You got that right....see article snip below in bold.....OB1

French Youths Say They're Marginalized
Nov 07 3:01 PM US/Eastern
By JAMEY KEATEN
Associated Press Writer
LE BLANC MESNIL, France

Theirs is a drab life of days spent smoking hashish, hanging out on street corners. They fidget and talk big. The only things they have in abundance are time and rancor. Ask what their dreams are, the response is blank stares.

Shouting over each other to be heard, the young toughs vented about their lives in Paris' suburban housing projects and the rioting setting them ablaze.

"We hate the police," cried one teenager. "It's the start of war," yelled another. "Put this in your notebook ... ," said a third, rattling off a string of obscenities about France's tough-talking interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy.

All French-born children of Arab and black African immigrants, this group of a dozen or so teens at Les Tilleuls housing project north of Paris complained of being marginalized by French society.

Years ago, France welcomed their parents as labor, often to do menial jobs most French did not want, they noted. And now, there are no jobs _ or no one willing to give them one, they said.

"This isn't good for anything," says Farid, 20, angrily shaking his French identity card. He and the others refused to give their surnames, saying they fear repercussions from police or in the community.

None of the youths said they have participated in arson attacks, but their sympathies are clearly with the rioters who have shaken France to its core in the nights of mayhem that spread across the country from tough Paris projects like Les Tilleuls.

"The 'elders' of the projects have tried to calm us down, but we don't care," said 20-year-old Karim, gesticulating wildly with his arms and then concentrating on rolling a joint......(snip)

91 posted on 11/08/2005 8:04:34 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

The impeached one's solution to the shortage of engineers and scientists in graduate school is bass-akwards as would be expected from an enemy within. Actually we need to have a national push for more of our own kids to start pursueing science and engineering careers...it's happened before.


92 posted on 11/08/2005 8:06:08 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Itzlzha; tertiary01
Tert01, your question from reply #10 of this thread has been answered.

Itzy was good enough to provide a ping list of the "hillary is the savior on immigration" supporters and posters on FR, in his reply #86 of this thread, to me.

93 posted on 11/08/2005 8:08:01 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

And we can thank George Hebert Walker Bush for Ross Perot.


94 posted on 11/08/2005 8:21:00 AM PST by Whitewasher (Would u like America to be a goat nation in the millennium to come? Keep pushing the "Roadmap" bull!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Scumbag: "I'm very worried that one of the consequences of our tightness on immigration and visas . . .

Tightness?

What tightness? What is Scumbag smoking in those "cigars"?

The blood of 911's stain on Scumbag will outive the stain on the blue dress.

Scumbag allowed a flood of not just illegal immigrants but swiss cheese background checks (actually no checks) on legal immigrants in order to beef up the RAT voter rolls for the 2000 election. David Schippers has great info on this subject.

95 posted on 11/08/2005 8:23:37 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

What "crackown"? Where?


96 posted on 11/08/2005 8:23:56 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Pylot
I don't think most of us are concerned with college students.

You mean like many of the terrorists have been?

Its the unwashed illegals who have not graduated High School in Mexico that have our attention.

So .... you don't mind if the occasional WTC bombing happens, but you don't want Miguel mowing lawns?

I want to stop ALL illegal immigration, but you have to prioritize as well.

97 posted on 11/08/2005 8:29:33 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Yeah, Bill, I learned well in 1993 that terrorists setting off a bomb here - and the American lives that end because of it - are of zero concern to you.

I hope that AIDS you got kicks into overdrive already.


98 posted on 11/08/2005 8:30:59 AM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Yeah, billy boy.....We lost about 3000 brains" on September 11th, 2001. I cannot type my words for you...scum will have to do.
99 posted on 11/08/2005 8:35:28 AM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: Reagan Disciple
"We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains."

Yes, the human beings currently in America are all so incapable of producing intelligent children. That's because more Republicans than Democrats live in such a way as to avoid any perceived need for abortion.

100 posted on 11/08/2005 8:39:57 AM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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