i have read them on both sides. what amazes me is how afraid the evolutionists are of any dissent. i have no problem with people presenting their evidence of no creator or that Jesus was a fraud or that the Bible is a fairy tale. bring it on. it's the evolutionists who want to use the courts to silence all dissent or discussion about the issue. most people don't even know the basic assumptions made in using carbon dating to evaluate how old things are. there's a reason the majority of the population does not believe in evolution after a generation of the evolution monopoly in the scientific community. because it's not science.
study the woodpecker alone. no other animal like it. it didn't evolve. it was created.
I do. But perhaps you would like to tell me about them?
Hint: stay away from the creation websites; they are full of nonsense on this subject.
I teach physical chemistry at the advanced undergraduate and graduate level, and I can assure you, I suppress dissent. People who use equations that are different from those found in the p. chem. books; people who employ 'alternative' definitions of conventional units; people who do 'non-standard' mathematics; all of them are brutally identified with a red pen and punished. Particular egregious dissenters fail the course, and in many cases this can deny them a lucrative career.
Just precisely what is your problem with woodpeckers?
How are they any more unusual than, say, armadillos, staghorn beetles or stinkhorns?
HIND LIMB MORPHOLOGY, PHYLOGENY, AND
Yes, woodeckers evolved. I'm offline for a few hours so this will have to do for now:
CLASSIFICATION OF THE PICIFORMES
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:wzzJtQs_dpEJ:elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v098n03/p0466-p0480.pdf+woodpecker+ancestry+evolution+phylogeny&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Piciformes are woodpeckers.
Kinda technical, unike creationist websites.
Argument from incredulity.
Many have studied the woodpecker, including its tongue, and come to a different and highly educated conclusion.
This sounds like a typical Hovindite manipulation of information. What the creationist sites you visit do not tell you can be more important than what they do tell you. In the case of Carbon 14 dating they forget to mention all the calibration techniques and precautions against contamination used. There is a reason they stick to 30 second sound bites. There is a reason they don't tell you everything.