In the meantime I've been becoming more educated on the ID/Neo-Darwinism debate, and while it is mildly interesting, I continually get both bored and overwhelmed, because it would be great to find a magic bullet that would put one theory above the other. I participated in a debate on another forum which I enjoyed, and I've been trading emails with a lot of intelligent people who make compelling arguments.
It is blatantly obvious that there is an amazing degree of scientific elitism on the evolution side of this issue. There is way more here on FR than anywhere else, and while I asked for, received and discussed facts and refutations, I have no interest in posting them here. It was definitely interesting and educational, but it would be wasted here.
So ID/evolution goes on the same trash heap with fiscal responsibility, CFR, Federalism and all the other stuff that I get tired of discussing on this board.
In the meantime I've been becoming more educated on the ID/Neo-Darwinism debate, and while it is mildly interesting, I continually get both bored and overwhelmed, because it would be great to find a magic bullet that would put one theory above the other. I participated in a debate on another forum which I enjoyed, and I've been trading emails with a lot of intelligent people who make compelling arguments.
Stirrings of a crisis of confidence in his position?
It is blatantly obvious that there is an amazing degree of scientific elitism on the evolution side of this issue. There is way more here on FR than anywhere else, and while I asked for, received and discussed facts and refutations, I have no interest in posting them here. It was definitely interesting and educational, but it would be wasted here.<sigh> And thus ModernDayCato cuts & runs - even before we find out exactly what it was that he was challenging Thatcherite to! That is worse than junior-high. That is elementary school quality.So ID/evolution goes on the same trash heap with ... all the other stuff that I get tired of discussing on this board.
Note to ModernDayCato: The manly thing to say would be something like: "In the meantime I've been becoming more educated on the ID/New-Darwinism debate, and I have to admit that I don't understand this stuff quite as well as I thought I did. I still think you evoFreepers are acting as scientific elitists, but we'll just have to agree to disagree for now."
I agree, it was really annoying when you claimed that your uncle, apparently a top scientist, was talking total nonsense about science. That's where it should have stopped. Any time your uncle wants to join the debate I'll be happy to have him educate me on where I am going wrong.
In the meantime I've been becoming more educated on the ID/Neo-Darwinism debate, and while it is mildly interesting, I continually get both bored and overwhelmed, because it would be great to find a magic bullet that would put one theory above the other.
Ah, evolution is a theory about variation and speciation. Now which is the other that you refer to? Evidently not ID, which even Michael Behe, the world's leading scientific exponent of ID, agrees is not a theory in the sense that scientists use the word (I already posted a link to his under-oath admission of that fact).
I participated in a debate on another forum which I enjoyed, and I've been trading emails with a lot of intelligent people who make compelling arguments.
That sounds a bit like how this thread was going, until someone laughed at those on the other side of this debate because they are f--ked in the afterlife for their beliefs. Oh... wait...
It is blatantly obvious that there is an amazing degree of scientific elitism on the evolution side of this issue. There is way more here on FR than anywhere else, and while I asked for, received and discussed facts and refutations, I have no interest in posting them here. It was definitely interesting and educational, but it would be wasted here.
I stand ready to be convinced. Thus far you have not posed a single argument of consequence. Just show the physical evidence for whatever position it is that you favour and we'll talk about it. Threatening eternal damnation to those who disagree doesn't count. Lest you get het up about me harping on about that issue I note that you have never shown the slightest remorse for the remark itself, only anger that it should be "mischaracterised". Quite how one should correctly characterise glee at, "You are all f--ked" I cannot imagine.
So ID/evolution goes on the same trash heap with fiscal responsibility, CFR, Federalism and all the other stuff that I get tired of discussing on this board.
As far as I can see you haven't even started discussing ID/evolution on this board in any meaningful way. Do let us know when you are ready to start.
Feel free to donate money to the RAFA. As you've dragged your uncle into the debate I'll tell you about my father. My father was a combat pilot in WW2, 464 Mosquito squadron. He participated in the low-level Denmark raids (described in the RAF's official history as the most demanding flying by the RAF of the war) piloting the camera plane. I guess most people think this about their father, but he was without a doubt the finest man I have ever known. He was also a lifelong atheist and died a few months ago, after a painful illness. From your earlier posts I already know what you think it funny that your God thinks of him.