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To: Thatcherite
Wow...that's absolutely unbelievable. We rail on this forum against ad hominem attacks AND against such nonsensical statements as 'I support the troops but not the war.' The way you guys are attacking me reminds me of both.

Tell me something...you prattle on about 'an evidence based war.' If something is a THEORY then there will be some evidence, but not enough evidence to prove beyond doubt that something is true. That's the definition of a theory. So I could rightly say that you have lost the evidentiary battle, and you could as well.

And I don't know whether YOU will go to heaven...that is your problem. I know the requirements for eternal life. I do my best to follow them. If I am right, terrific. If I am wrong, I can rot in the ground and never know better.

I am shocked (and amused) that so-called scientists will fight so bitterly and emotionally to defend a theory that is clearly flawed, when you eggheads are supposed to welcome skepticism and challenge to the status quo.

Even for an utter moron like myself, it is a pretty big stretch to look at life here on earth and believe that the beauty, intricacy and balance was all achieved randomly.

Let's see...I'm a moron, nasty, and me and my God are evil. Another brilliantly conceived defense on your side. I'm convinced.

363 posted on 11/09/2005 5:46:35 AM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato
I know the requirements for eternal life. I do my best to follow them.

You face Mecca five times a day and pray to Allah? Well done! Your houris will be beauteous, and the melons you feast on will be moist and sweet.

I am shocked (and amused) that so-called scientists will fight so bitterly and emotionally to defend a theory that is clearly flawed, when you eggheads are supposed to welcome skepticism and challenge to the status quo.

Funny, I've been at this more or less for 40 years, and I haven't run into the flaws. It looks pretty darn convincing and comprehensive theory to me.

Even for an utter moron like myself, it is a pretty big stretch to look at life here on earth and believe that the beauty, intricacy and balance was all achieved randomly.

Ah, there's your problem. You think evolution is a random process. Not at all.

387 posted on 11/09/2005 7:52:38 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
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To: ModernDayCato
Wow...that's absolutely unbelievable. We rail on this forum against ad hominem attacks AND against such nonsensical statements as 'I support the troops but not the war.' The way you guys are attacking me reminds me of both.

You lost the ad hominem high ground when you laughed at those who disagree with your opinion of ToE because we are to be punished in the afterlife. It is a bit late to start whining about ad hominem now.

Tell me something...you prattle on about 'an evidence based war.' If something is a THEORY then there will be some evidence, but not enough evidence to prove beyond doubt that something is true. That's the definition of a theory. So I could rightly say that you have lost the evidentiary battle, and you could as well.

Thank you for demonstrating that you don't know what you are talking about. There is no status for scientific truth higher than theory. If you are interested in learning something rather than threatening those who don't share your beliefs with eternal damnation you can follow the links on PatrickHenry's home page that explain what scientists mean when they use the words "fact", "theory", and "law".

And I don't know whether YOU will go to heaven...that is your problem.

That is a shift of ground on your part. In your OP you were very clear that those who don't agree with you are f-cked

I know the requirements for eternal life. I do my best to follow them. If I am right, terrific. If I am wrong, I can rot in the ground and never know better.

False dichotomy. For example supposing that God exists but doesn't care and there is no heaven, and Satan exists and punishes God's believers in the afterlife for eternity. You cannot prove that proposition is false. The certainty in your head that worshipping the Christian God is right could have been planted by Satan and you would have no way of knowing it. In such a case you would be the one f-cked, but rest assured I'd be horrified, I wouldn't laugh at you.

I am shocked (and amused) that so-called scientists will fight so bitterly and emotionally to defend a theory that is clearly flawed, when you eggheads are supposed to welcome skepticism and challenge to the status quo.

Please feel free to expound on the clear flaws of the theory of evolution. But please don't bore us with repetitions of the canards and lies that have been refuted thousands of times, here and elsewhere. If you find a flaw in the theory easy to understand, you might care to ponder why it has not convinced any biologists in the last 150 years. Do you think they are all stupid? Or liars who don't really believe in the theory?

Even for an utter moron like myself, it is a pretty big stretch to look at life here on earth and believe that the beauty, intricacy and balance was all achieved randomly.

It may come as a shock to you, but scientific knowledge is not required to avoid being "a pretty big stretch". Scientific truth is full of facts that are a pretty big stretch. Oh, and it didn't occur randomly. Selection is anything but random.

Let's see...I'm a moron, nasty, and me and my God are evil. Another brilliantly conceived defense on your side. I'm convinced.

To avoid being considered a moron avoid making moronic posts. To avoid the conclusion that you worship an evil God contemplate the nature of a being who punishes infinitely for a finite offense.

404 posted on 11/09/2005 10:14:09 AM PST by Thatcherite (Feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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