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Muslim group warns on anti-terror laws
Financial Times ^ | November 7 2005 | Jimmy Burns

Posted on 11/07/2005 11:59:37 AM PST by mdittmar

The government’s anti-terror legislation risks fuelling community tensions similar to those that provoked violence in France, the Islamic Human Rights Commission has warned.

“What may happen here, as in France, is a sense of growing alienation of Muslims that feels excluded from mainstream society and that could be very dangerous,” Massoud Shadjareh, the commission’s chairman, told the FT.

In recent weeks, Muslim organisations, including the Muslim Council of Britain and the Muslim Association of Britain, have raised concerns about the new terror laws.

But the critique of the government’s anti-terror strategy, published on Monday by the commission, challenged attempts by the prime minister to play down the concerns.

Tony Blair said earlier on Monday it was “patronising” to assume that Muslims would be particularly concerned about the prospect of people being held without charge for 90 days. “The Muslim community knows perfectly well how important it is to tackle terrorism, because terrorist acts cause difficulty for them,” he said.

The commission’s report argues that the proposed terror laws, such as extended detention without charge and the banning of certain Muslim groups, along with increased police anti-terrorist activity within the Muslim community, are contributing to a sense of legal segregation.

“As faith in the British justice system diminishes, Muslim communities may feel themselves under attack and may fade into ghettoes and away from the mainstream British community”, it warns.

“Communities that perceive themselves as under attack withdraw into themselves where they feel safe . . . they will not seek re-dress for social ills in a system which they have lost faith in and this will only lead to further polarisation of the Muslim community.”

In the immediate aftermath of the London bombings, the government and members of the Muslim community joined forces in a public statement to de-nounce political extremism.

But the report suggests that the hardening of the political language used by Mr Blair in August, and the government’s drafting of new terror laws, is setting back hopes of building a political consensus, and weakening the desire of Muslims to integrate into Britain’s multicultural society.

Drawing parallels with the support given to the IRA within the Catholic community in Northern Ireland’s “Troubles”, the commission says the legislation will be counter-productive, driving extremists underground and broadening their support.

“If there are indeed a handful of Muslims who may wish to use violence to resolve grievances, they may be protected by sections of the community unwilling to co-operate with the authorities,” says the report.

Ahmed Versi, Muslim News editor, said the unpopularity of the legislation was threatening to undermine more constructive government efforts to engage with moderate Muslim opinion. “There is a widely-held feeling that the anti-terror legislation as been drafted in a way that will only affect the Muslim community.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackmail; islam; religionofpeace; terroristthreats; threat
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Warning or threat?
1 posted on 11/07/2005 11:59:37 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

If they don't like it I think most Britons would be thrilled if they would just go home.


2 posted on 11/07/2005 12:00:59 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: mdittmar

"If you interfere with our attempt to show you we are peaceful religion, we'll burn your cars and your nursery schools."


3 posted on 11/07/2005 12:01:02 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: mdittmar

Go ahead. I shoot for keeps.


4 posted on 11/07/2005 12:02:14 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: mdittmar

This is a REAL test for Europe. Let's see how they respond. Will we have to bail their sorry asses out again? Was Bush right all along?? Of course he was :)


5 posted on 11/07/2005 12:03:10 PM PST by Buffettfan
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a sense of growing alienation of Muslims that feels excluded from mainstream society

*Victims*

Sorry, but if they feel alienated, it's probably because they refuse to assimilate.

6 posted on 11/07/2005 12:03:12 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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Warning or threat?

Overt threat. Not thinly veiled at all. Once the autonomous regions are established in France, they will demand them in Britain.

7 posted on 11/07/2005 12:03:12 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: mdittmar

threat. The kids in Sacramento who were starting to act badly like these Parisians don't respect anything. They certainly don't respect the FBI who spends 6 figure salaries on people tailing the punk kids who like to play hide and seek with their tailers. They'll bankrupt us using low intensity civil disobedience. It'll be like boiling a frog. By the time the frog realizes the water's boiling, it's too late.


8 posted on 11/07/2005 12:03:14 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: mdittmar
"What may happen here, as in France, is a sense of growing alienation of Muslims that feels excluded from mainstream society and that could be very dangerous," Massoud Shadjareh, the commission's chairman, told the FT.

Sounds like a threat!

9 posted on 11/07/2005 12:03:44 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: mdittmar

Obvious THREAT.


10 posted on 11/07/2005 12:04:32 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound (What ya gonna do?.......... Get REAL........ American CONSERVATIVE, not a Republican lapdog)
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To: mdittmar

There was someone on Fox and Friends this morning (I can't remember who) he said BRITAIN IS NEXT!


11 posted on 11/07/2005 12:04:42 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: mdittmar

If they try it here I'll be waiting with my gun.


12 posted on 11/07/2005 12:04:53 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: mdittmar

no reason to believe they won't win. baby makers vs baby killers? I'll put my money on the army of discontented youth over a flock of aging, non reproductive, complacent, emascualated sheep.


13 posted on 11/07/2005 12:05:16 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

You are correct. I'm waiting to see how France ultimately handles this issue. It's not going to just go away as the leftist clowns would prefer. So let's see their "solution". ;)


14 posted on 11/07/2005 12:05:32 PM PST by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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Warning or threat?

Well, a warning is more something like "it's going to rain, wear your rubbers" or put on a sweater or you'll catch a cold".

This is more like "give us what we want or we'll hold your country hostage". That's a threat.

15 posted on 11/07/2005 12:06:32 PM PST by Kenton (Muslims want to play by "girls' rules")
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To: mdittmar

"Do what we say and no one get's hurt."


16 posted on 11/07/2005 12:06:42 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

You are dang right....in Texas...we have conceal/carry, and I have no doubt that they will be used if anything like what is happening in France starts here...


17 posted on 11/07/2005 12:06:53 PM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

they know that. that's why they are prepping europe for conquest and the USA/Israel for destruction. Who are you going to use your gun on when the city goes up in a ball of fire? Your neighbor desperate for provisions? It won't be the enemy.


18 posted on 11/07/2005 12:06:54 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: areafiftyone

I wish I had a nickel for the number of times I've seen the words "Muslim group warns..." in a headline over the past two years.


19 posted on 11/07/2005 12:07:22 PM PST by TheBigB (<----cooler than the other side of the pillow.)
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To: SlowBoat407

... and then take you over. we prefer for you to cave in and concede so there is no violence. we will kiss you along the way and either way allah will prevail as that is his will.


HIJACKING IN PROGRESS!!!!

time to adopt shoot to kill, these immigrants allegedly came for a better life. Instead they imported their third world philosopy and dirt.

Show me where islam is superior. All it has generated is third world backward nations envious of what the G7 have done for their people. Show me where it is a GREAT religion.

All it is is cancer sucking the life out of all involved.


20 posted on 11/07/2005 12:08:19 PM PST by jackson29
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