Posted on 11/07/2005 6:18:54 AM PST by 4lifeandliberty
On Saturday, Nov. 5, A group of believers was thrown off of the Clemson University campus. It was the last stop during a ministry tour in South Carolina. My two oldest sons were along for the week.
A Permit had been granted to come onto the campus and a permit fee had been paid by the leader of the ministry team.
Even though the team had jumped through the hoops and obtained the permit, the Campus police showed up and began to push around my son, Caleb, who was filming the interaction.
One Sgt. shoved, blocked and intentionally stepped on the feet of 16 yr old Caleb. As the team was being forced to leave. Caleb was filming their departure. The Sgt. came at him from the side and grabbed his camera. He stole his film and gave the camera back.
Dennis Green Life and Liberty Ministries
[url]http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com[/url]
Greetings. I went to your site, read your bio and background on LLM and found it interesting. However,
I do have a couple of questions.
HOW do you support your wife Ruthy and 9 children
when you have NO income from an occupation?
Do you receive a stipend or a salary from the monetary contributions people on the street place in a basket?
WHO else is on the governing board of your organization?
You only make mention of yourself and Ruthy.
I read through your Counseling blurbs and it seems
mostly WOMEN are sent out to confront the expectant
mother about to enter the "abortion mill"...unless there
is a boyfriend accompanying her. I gather YOUR participation is limited to counseling counsellors?
But the really disturbing diatribe I read is found in
the Birth Control Message to the Church. After plowing
through all the references, I can only conclude that
you disapprove ANY WASTE of sperm, and that "LIFE" begins at the moment ejaculation occurs even NEAR a woman's vagina. Why else would you denounce any and all means of preventing conception?
While I am NOT Pro-Abortion-on-demand, it seems clear
to me that you ARE Pro-Life, with no choice, to the extreme. My stand (and that of MY wife) regarding Personal Choice for Women is limited to the choices a female makes BEFORE submitting her body to the possibility of motherhood. Your stand condemns ANY choice she and/or her partner make before, during, and after copulation. Even more, you base all of your foment to the Bible, declaring
that God alone decides when the Gift of Life should
occur. Where does the Divine Gift of Free Will enter
into your code of ethics?
Finally, I have a really hard time fathoming the
pertinence of the sites listed on your Calendar year
with the said goal of "abortion mill" counseling:
March 10-11, 2006 - Pro-Life Rally, Mt Gilead Full
Gospel International Ministries, Richmond, VA
April 2, 2006 - Advance Auto Parts 500, Martinsville, VA
May 6, 2006 - Chevy 400, Richmond International Raceway
Richmond, VA
June 9-10, 2006 - Promise Keepers Outreach, Baltimore, MD
Oct. 14, 2006 - Bank of America 500, Lowes Motor Speedway,
Charlotte, NC
These are undoubtedly sites chosen to solicite public
donations for your continued format..and the life style
to which you and yours have become accustomed.
Greetings. I went to your site, read your bio and background on LLM and found it interesting. However,
I do have a couple of questions.
HOW do you support your wife Ruthy and 9 children
when you have NO income from an occupation?
---We breed and sell Yellow and Black Labs. I am a full time home missionary. Our work is supported by individuals who believe in what we are doing.---
You only make mention of yourself and Ruthy.
I read through your Counseling blurbs and it seems
mostly WOMEN are sent out to confront the expectant
mother about to enter the "abortion mill"...unless there
is a boyfriend accompanying her. I gather YOUR participation is limited to counseling counsellors?
---If you have read through our web site you will see that dozens of people work with us on a regular basis.
Both men and women are involved in our street ministry at the abortion clinics on a daily basis.
Finally, I have a really hard time fathoming the
pertinence of the sites listed on your Calendar year
with the said goal of "abortion mill" counseling:
----We do much more than just "abortion mill" counseling---
These are undoubtedly sites chosen to solicite public
donations for your continued format..and the life style
to which you and yours have become accustomed.
----We have conduct outreaches at numerous large events and as of yet we have received no donations stemming from them. Your assumption is inncorect.----
You misrepresent our stance regarding birth control. It is clear for anyone to read at:
http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/archives/000007.php
Uh, excuse me???? What the he!! are you talking about?
You misrepresent our stance regarding birth control. It is clear for anyone to read at:
http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/archives/000007.php
Why are you addressing this to me?????? I think you guys need more..or less coffee this morning. Get your posters straight!!!
My last post was intended for Grendel9
So they show the court an erased tape. Now what?
There were many witnesses. They have a permit and the University charged the organizer for the permit on his credit card.
Already available. Very pricey.
God bless your efforts.
You'gve been here long enough to know there will always be naysayers, critiques or moderates over anything.
A short-distance TV transmitter shouldn't be that costly. Transmit on UHF and the antenna size is not unwieldy.
No, they aren't. But those need an AC power supply. I've looked for a way to do just this and haven't found an inexpensive solution. Finding one that runs on batteries that has more than a 150ft. line of sight range and isn't hugely clunky...that's the hard part.
A fair backpack would hold a motorcycle battery.
Nearly all modern electronic equipment that have AC power supplies just use the AC to furnish DC to the electonics.
If you get a schematic of the device, you can skip the AC input and furnish the DC with battery.
"They were handing out Gospel literature in their disignated area. They caused no problems."
If you were within the permit both in activities and position then it sounds like the the expulsion was wrong.. were you given any reasons?
Even if the expulsion were somehow justified you it sounds like you should have grounds for complaint on the destruction of evidence situation.
Strategy-wise you might think about writing to the chief of police and copying the President of the university...
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