Posted on 11/07/2005 4:38:50 AM PST by alnitak
There is one surefire way to put a halt to this:
Mow down every one of these dirtbags with Napalm and send a full-color video of the action to every mosque in France....or every mosque, period.
Get to the streets and kick the Islamic prix out of there!! My gosh in medevil times you were kicking ass, what happened?
Am waiting for Kerry or Clinton to come out and say Bush is to blame; that this wouldn't have happened if we hadn't "invaded" Irag.
Of course their fix would be to give our forces over to the UN and join the rioting.
This sounds as if the French are thinking about surrendering, if they could only figure out who to surrender to.
Daily Telegraph again, opinion piece this time:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/11/07/do0701.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/11/07/ixopinion.html
France divided as the flames creep ever closer to central Paris
By Colin Randall
(Filed: 07/11/2005)
After nine nights of rioting on the drab sink estates of suburban Paris, the spread of trouble to the fringes of the elegant city centre was perhaps the development France most dreaded. It would be false to suggest that the French have not been shocked by the daily images of burning cars and stone-throwing mobs. But while the violence was confined to ghettos that most of them would never dream of visiting, the comfortable Parisian elite could share with la France profonde a sense of eyebrow-raised detachment.
Setting fire to cars is, after all, what happens on a smaller scale all year round in the bleak, low-cost housing estates reassuringly located on the other side of the road that circles the capital. Now, however, the audacious threats of the hooded casseurs - that there was an appetite to maintain and extend the violence - are proving disturbingly accurate. Arsonists have not only crept distressingly close to Paris's grand boulevards; the celebrated tranquillity of Normandy and the glitz of the Riviera have also been menaced, with pockets of trouble reported from such towns as Evreux and Cannes as well, more predictably, as Lyons, Lille and Marseilles.
When the weather turned cold and wet after the first few nights, it seemed reasonable to hope that the trouble would die away. That is what often happened in poorer corners of 1980s Britain, when disturbances erupted on hot nights only to subside at the first sign of rain. In France, the trouble has endured and intensified to the extent that even a brief respite seems improbable in the short term. And there is little obvious sign that useful lessons can be drawn from the British experience.
The business of rioting has moved a long way from Broadwater Farm and Brixton to Aulnay-sous-Bois and Suresnes. There are certainly similarities, but also at least one key distinction. As a Daily Telegraph reporter covering the troubled estates of London, Bristol and Birmingham in the 1980s, I well remember the single-issue triggers to outbreaks of ferocious disorder. History, it seems, is being repeated in the country on which I now report for this newspaper.
Just as the Brixton and Broadwater Farm riots - overwhelmingly involving youths of West Indian origin - followed the death of one black woman and the shooting of another, the French disturbances were sparked by the deaths of two teenagers electrocuted while apparently hiding from police in an electricity sub-station.
After the British riots, an uneasy calm returned within a day or two. Resources were thrown at the disadvantaged communities, formal inquiries were commissioned and the actions of the police were placed under scrutiny in the courts and in Parliament. The black British rioters of that era, and the black or North African Arab French rioters of today, share feelings of disenchantment with the society into which their parents were once encouraged to settle. Young men from Tottenham or Toxteth considered themselves, often with reason, the victims of discrimination; the children of Algerian and sub-Saharan immigrants to France see the vaunted French qualities of liberté, égalité, fraternité as an illusion. They commonly speak of feeling not only un-French, but also unable to identify much more closely with the countries of their family's origins.
But - and this is the crucial difference between the different generations of rioters - most of those living in the French ghettoes are Muslims and have grown up during a period of Islamic radicalisation. Many of the youths hurling petrol bombs on Parisian estates look up to a slightly older group of mosque stalwarts. These men are capable of being forces for both good and mischief; there have been examples from the past fortnight of situations calmed, but also of attackers acting under their direction, so that Muslim-owned businesses, a halal butcher's shop and a kebab joint, for example, are spared, while a bank branch and symbols of another France are targeted.
Intelligence officials have already spoken of the involvement of the more sinister of such figures in the recruitment of young French Muslims to fight the American-led coalition in Iraq. Several have been killed, others are missing. The gravest fear for French ministers is that the trouble of the past 10 days has been orchestrated by Islamists bent on exploiting the grievances of impressionable youths. France's attempts to integrate its large Muslim population have failed; in the name of a secular state in which everyone, theoretically, is equal, there is not even a dependable estimate as to the true numbers - they are widely assumed to be as high as 10 per cent, or six million people, but the official census is not allowed to distinguish between ethnic groups.
If Margaret Thatcher's Britain somehow muddled through its crisis, a depressing question was springing to many French minds as 1,300 vehicles were set ablaze across the country on Saturday night alone. What can be done to end the rioting by a government seen by many as incompetent, divided and distracted by the competing presidential ambitions of its key figures, the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, and the interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy?
Mr de Villepin's handling of the current crisis has offered little reason for confidence; Mr Sarkozy's conduct, on the other hand, has been extraordinary. His condemnations of rioters as "scum" have robbed him of any support he will have gained among moderate Muslim opinion with earlier calls for reform of France's 100-year-old secular law to enable state funding for mosques.
Ever on the look-out for a pragmatic quick fix, the wily old political bruiser Jacques Chirac may well be wondering whether sacking Mr Sarkozy, his one-time protégé but in recent years his most deadly rival, would end the violence and boost his own lowly ratings in the polls.
Mr Chirac knows, however, that dismissal would not end his interior minister's surge towards the Elysée. Mr Sarkozy would retain his other crucial power base, as president of the ruling UMP party, and would continue to make exactly the sort of pronouncements that appal Messrs Chirac and de Villepin, but appeal to large segments of middle France.
As the government flounders, seemingly powerless to stem the bombardments of petrol bombs and stones, a snapshot of French opinion offers striking confirmation of just how divided the country is. Even as Paris burns, a new poll for the daily Le Parisien has found that while two thirds of the French feel that "Sarko" has a tendency to be too outspoken, a clear majority - 57 per cent - retains a positive view of him.
Interesting to see what they burn when they run out of cars.
Lol
I'm afraid you are incorrect. Several stories from the MSM indicate that youths with African-Muslim descent are involved in these riots. I don't how many times I've read this from MSM websites. Medical alert: Sticking with the MSM ensures the deterioration of brain cell tissue.
If you happened to be joking I apologize, didn't see the sarcasm button. We always have a DUer lurking.
This is what the folks who want an end to border control and immigration law are begging for. But their immature, bleeding-heart logic prevents them from understanding this.
Welcome to the future of the U.S.A.
"Interesting to see what they burn when they run out of cars."
"Cans! He hates cans!"
Ha ha ha ha
That is a surprise. Most other reports just refer to the "immigrant population."
I'm sure Peugeot is already ramping up production
Still going on.
Dear Lord spare Paris, for they have let the barbarians in.
Dadgum.
That's nation-wide.
I'm suprised the BBC isn't funneling bottles and gasoline to the angry mooslim youth
Infidels.
They already did that couple of days ago, doused a disabled woman on a bus with petrol, tossed burning rags on her . . . bus driver rescued her . . . severe burns over 20% of her body . . . now they're turning their attention to the churches and schools . . .
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