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To: heartwood

And that's it right there: the gays going nuts over the marriage issue simply are doing it for MONEY and monetary benefit. They can have meaningful relationships (to them anyway) without marriage. I really don't give a crap what they do in their own homes if it doesn't hurt me or others. God will judge them someday, not me. My major problem with the idea of them getting married is the benefits they will get. I don't get sh** for benefits from the government for being single, even if I have a girlfriend and have a good relationship with her. I don't make out better on my taxes for being single, so why the hell should gays be better off than me? To put this in perspective, my half uncle is gay, he is a nice guy and never once spouted off a bunch of crap about gay marriage.


12 posted on 11/06/2005 7:48:27 PM PST by MadManDan
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To: MadManDan
...benefits from the government for being single...

Good point -- and this is why the 'rights' argument is bogus from the start. Special government treatment of married people is discriminatory to start with, if the argument is all about rights. If it's about benefits, well then we can have a debate and make a political decision on that, which we are in the process of doing.

17 posted on 11/06/2005 8:04:30 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: MadManDan

My major problem with homosexualists wanting to "change" marriage is the same problem I have with anyone who wants to "change" an institution simply to fit their personal situation.

To me it's like this:

I'm not a doctor, having never been to medical school or otherwise been qualified.

I go down to the medical licensing place and demand a license to practice medicine.

The clerk says to me, "But you're not a doctor."

I say, "Well, what's that got to do with it? You give licenses to other people."

"Yes, but they're doctors. You're not eligible for a medical license."

"But that's not fair! I should have the same rights as the people who went to medical school! Just because I'm not a doctor doesn't mean I should be denied a license! You need to change the eligibility requirements so that I can get a license the same way people who have been to medical school can get a license!"

To be eligible for a marriage license (until recently), you had to be (1) a man marrying a woman, or (2) a woman marrying a man.

If you were not qualified, by intending to marry a person of the opposite sex, you simply weren't eligible for "marriage" because marriage is between a man and a woman.

But now gays have come along and said "Well, change the eligibility requirements so I can get a license anyway."


21 posted on 11/06/2005 8:40:26 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: MadManDan

My major problem with homosexualists wanting to "change" marriage is the same problem I have with anyone who wants to "change" an institution simply to fit their personal situation.

To me it's like this:

I'm not a doctor, having never been to medical school or otherwise been qualified.

I go down to the medical licensing place and demand a license to practice medicine.

The clerk says to me, "But you're not a doctor."

I say, "Well, what's that got to do with it? You give licenses to other people."

"Yes, but they're doctors. You're not eligible for a medical license."

"But that's not fair! I should have the same rights as the people who went to medical school! Just because I'm not a doctor doesn't mean I should be denied a license! You need to change the eligibility requirements so that I can get a license the same way people who have been to medical school can get a license!"

To be eligible for a marriage license (until recently), you had to be (1) a man marrying a woman, or (2) a woman marrying a man.

If you were not qualified, by intending to marry a person of the opposite sex, you simply weren't eligible for "marriage" because marriage is between a man and a woman.

But now gays have come along and said "Well, change the eligibility requirements so I can get a license anyway."


22 posted on 11/06/2005 8:40:27 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: MadManDan

Read the quotes I posted above by noted "gay" spokespersonages about the reasons for promoting same sex marriage.

It's not money (although individuals may have that motivation as well), it's power, and the desire to change society.


35 posted on 11/06/2005 9:04:35 PM PST by little jeremiah
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