Flames spread to all corners as Chirac tries to keep control

The Times Online ^ | November 07, 2005 | Charles Bremner

[fishhound]

After ten nights of violence, the riots have spread to the provinces PRESIDENT CHIRAC and his Government were struggling to reassert their authority yesterday after the epidemic of arson in suburban immigrant estates spread to all corners of France, including the heart of the capital.

In the tenth successive night of violence on Saturday, more than 1,300 vehicles were set alight and 312 people arrested as youths in the provinces, mostly teenagers, joined in the fire-raising spree that broke out in the northeast Paris suburbs on October 27.

Arsonists hit the Lille area in the north, Strasbourg in the east, Lyons in the southeast, Nice and Cannes on the Mediterranean and Toulouse and Bordeaux to the southwest.

Evreux, a Normandy city known for its bleak estates, was hardest hit. At least 50 vehicles were incinerated and fires destroyed or damaged businesses at a shopping centre, a post office and two schools.

[fishhound]

Someone had asked a map in a previous thread.

here are the hash marks

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1860453,00.html

[goldstategop]

Chiraq is sipping wine as his country goes up in flames around him. Merde!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Cicero]

In a sign of the little-reported permanent insurrection on the estates, the police said that more than 30,000 vehicles have been burnt in France so far this year.

Another factoid suppressed by the MSM.

[Uncle Vlad]

I wonder if we should put a pool together to see how long it will be before France starts begging us to send in troops.

[BW2221]

Yes, multi-culturalism is worderful. 100 years ago, this would have been unthinkable.

[swheats]

I'd say two days from now since Chiraq has crawled from under his rock seeing the destruction of his inaction 10 days later.

[DannyTN]

"more than 30,000 vehicles have been burnt in France so far this year. "

That's got to be wrong. That would be 1000 cars a night. A previous thread said that 30 vehicles a weekend were burnt. It's probably more than 3000 this year.

[fishhound]

Print is always clueless.

What i think is intersting is that the French did get rid of Muslim head scarves in schools. Though it is not much of a comparison. And they made no exceptions. That really was no easy task....our ACLU would have held it up in courts till Allah thanked them.

So, I think the French will come down hard and decisively. And I hope they do for their own sake.

[tet68]

Makes you wonder what that does to the insurance rates.

[durasell]

Yes, multi-culturalism is worderful. 100 years ago, this would have been unthinkable


Draft riots in NYC

[Cicero]

No, we're around 300 days into the year. That would make an average of a hundred cars a night. It's certainly possible.

[Cboldt]

Yes, multi-culturalism is worderful. 100 years ago, this would have been unthinkable.

Cars weren't quite as common, for one thing.

[swheats]

Are they saying because these are 'youths' the damage is not so bad? Those youths are using bullets against their police.

I heard earlier on FOX that the attacks as the riots continue are becoming more organized and planned. Could groups like ANSWER do something like this?

[Nam Vet]

Cars weren't quite as common, for one thing.

True, true. Besides, I don't think Molotov had his little brainstorm idea at that time yet.

Nam Vet

[mosquewatch.com]

Can't use the "M" word anymore, we don't want to hurt the Muslims feelings. Ooops I wrote the "M" word!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :)

[DugwayDuke]

"What i think is intersting is that the French did get rid of Muslim head scarves in schools."

"So, I think the French will come down hard and decisively. And I hope they do for their own sake."

Actually, the French had few options WRT the headscarves. Muslims considered those who did not wear the headscarves to be 'sluts'. Women with out them were harrassed, beaten, raped, etc. since they 'were asking for it'. Even Muslim women joined in. The French response was designed to protect non-muslims from such harrassment. As such, it was a somewhat strong response but a very liberal response - a long the lines of 'I'll take your toys away if you don't play right'.

But, as you suggest, the headscarves are really symbolic of this whole affair. Just as the Muslims insisted on the right to force every women to wear a headscarf IAW the Koran, the genesis of these rights is the perceived right to rule their enclaves under strict Islaamic law.