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Democrats' 'dupe' message could backfire
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | November 6, 2005 | Dick Polman (A.P.)

Posted on 11/06/2005 9:51:43 AM PST by Graybeard58

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To: hsalaw
Most of the loudest "I was tricked" voices were also those who chimed right in on the WMD and Saddam-is-a-threat message prior to the war.

Damn, that Karl Rove is good! Some of these people were on board with the WMD message BEFORE GW was elected the FIRST time. If any "duping" was going on it was "der slickmeister's" doing.

Regards,
GtG

21 posted on 11/06/2005 10:46:17 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
[ I REALLY hope the 'RATS use this "We Were Duped" as their campaign slogan in '06 and '08. Americans will be laughing at them all the way to the polls. ]

Depends on how many americans are not f'ing morons themselves..
The mexican border is feeding their base.. i.e. fully half the american people voted FOR Al Gore a known and proven moron..

22 posted on 11/06/2005 10:47:53 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Damn, that Karl Rove is good!

I just figured it out, the Weathermaster 2000 MkII has a function allowing KR to travel back in time to change the past. That has to be it. No doubt about it, they were duped, all of them and Karl Rove did it. Quick, call Fitzgerald!

Regards,
GtG

23 posted on 11/06/2005 10:54:55 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Graybeard58
Three simple words: "We were duped."

Yes, starting in 1998 when the President used intelligence to assert that Iraq had stockpiled WMD and had on going nuclear weapons programs. The were duped into supporting an attack on a sovereign country.

Given the 9-11 attack on New York, the continuing recalcitrance of Iraq to conform to the wishes of the UN and that the countries intelligence agencies changed little between 1998 and 2002 I would say that many people may have been duped.

It cannot be a good thing for the RATS to go there.

24 posted on 11/06/2005 10:55:44 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: freedumb2003; yoe
Glad to be of service. I save all the little gems like that one. You never know when they may come in handy.


25 posted on 11/06/2005 11:00:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Power is nothing without control.)
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To: Graybeard58

It should backfire because it is a lie and stupid message.


26 posted on 11/06/2005 11:01:19 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, saw ole Turban Dick on the news the other day. Seems after his alleged apology he has calmed down a bit. I guess his constituency put him in his place.


27 posted on 11/06/2005 11:04:00 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: thoughtomator

ROFLOLOLOL I think the inability of the Democrats to find solutions and lack of timing has made it impossible for people to take them seriously! So, watch out for Voter Fraud!


28 posted on 11/06/2005 11:05:09 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Paladin2
The 'Rats should try "brainwashed"

A light rinse would do!

Apoligies to whoever it was that first said it. I heard it attributed to some politicin on TV this morning.

29 posted on 11/06/2005 11:06:55 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Graybeard58
At least four other Democratic senators who voted to authorize war have used the dupe argument in recent days, including Christopher Dodd of Connecticut (who periodically voices White House ambitions) and Tom Harkin of Iowa (who now calls his war support "one of the biggest voting mistakes of my career").

One fact never mentioned in these stories is how the Democrats tried to push the vote for war until after the 2002 elections. Everyone complained that the American people had a right to know how the candidates felt about something that important before going to the polls to vote for them.

If the Democrats were "duped" into anything, it was on voting before the 2002 election, not on voting for the war. They all wanted to postpone the vote until after they won back their seats for six more years, which would free them to game the vote.

And, that would have been the people doing the duping, not the Bush Administration.

-PJ

30 posted on 11/06/2005 11:12:18 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Graybeard58

Democrats should know all about being lied to. Their party leaders have lied to them for decades.
Dim Senators weren't duped into voting for the war. They actually spoke in favor of it.
Dims are just Dopes!


31 posted on 11/06/2005 11:31:35 AM PST by jerry639
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To: Graybeard58
They are correct. The President duped them. They were given faulty intelligence.

They never would have agreed to these things and said what they did if not for that.

So, when did they say 'these things' about Saddam, Iraq, and war?

During CLINTON's TERM.

So, if any President 'lied' to them, it must have been Bill Clinton.

Here is where they will really 'dupe' themselves, though.

Are not Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and all the other naysayers on the SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE?

Would they not be the ones with the latest intel on Iraq and Saddam?

Don't they advise the President?

So, now, who would be lying then, if the President got bad info?

32 posted on 11/06/2005 11:32:29 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: misterrob

You beat me to it. I should have read all posts first.


33 posted on 11/06/2005 11:33:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: Graybeard58
The Democratic party appears to have finally come up with a way to explain why so many of its elected leaders gave President Bush the authority to wage war in Iraq.

Three simple words: "We were duped."

Well, that just fills me with ALL KINDS OF CONFIDENCE in their ability to lead! How 'bout the rest of you?

34 posted on 11/06/2005 11:42:55 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

So what about the statements before W was president?Are they saying Bubba lied and wasted are entire arsenal of cruise missles?Where was the evidence of wmds when bubba was President? when he destroyed all those wmds was there contamination from all the uranium that was blown up? who did the cleanups? Where are the reports of the sites we destroyed thenn now that there are reporters all over Iraq?


35 posted on 11/06/2005 11:56:22 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Graybeard58

They weren't duped. They don't give a flyin' sh!t about WMD. They just came to realize after the 02 and 04 elections that they have to come up with something...anything to get the "7% squishy middle" to vote for them or they are hopelessly destined for 3rd party status. Without ideas or charismatic leaders of their own the only way for them to make a comeback is to criminalize the GOP. JMHO.


36 posted on 11/06/2005 11:59:21 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life.)
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To: ballplayer
You can ask the same questions about Kosovo. Where are the photos of genocide? Where are the after-bombing photos of all the bridges over the Danube? Some say that genocide was an excuse for NATO to bomb the old, historic bridges over the Danube to allow oil traffic to the Adriatic. Or it was about all the mineral mines in the area.

In either case, were we lied to about going to war?

-PJ

37 posted on 11/06/2005 12:25:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Graybeard58
They're trapped between their support for the war and their anti-war kooks. Talk about trying to push a square into a round hole. No matter what the Democrats do, they come across looking as unprincipled, indecisive and weak. Not a party Americans want to entrust to with our country's national security.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

38 posted on 11/06/2005 12:44:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Graybeard58
We were duped.

Required wearing for Dems...

39 posted on 11/06/2005 12:47:51 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Graybeard58

You're right the "duped" will backfire.

The reason is .. everybody who's anybody is exposing the previous statements made by the dems WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT. They clearly match the same thing the dems were saying after 9/11. They're trapped.

To say they were duped - is really stupid!

The dems are just looking for a way to escape for what they said about the war. They agreed to it .. but now their rapid base is anti-war and they want a way out. It's too late!!

Hillary will find a way to take Sheehan out - before she has to admit she's anti-war.


40 posted on 11/06/2005 1:57:39 PM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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