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To: Dark Skies
A "take over" is only possible when a conqueror has enough firepower to be able to put down any challange to its occupation by force of arms........

Your argument is quite sensible except that Islam doesn't expect to take over by military means. They (muslims) are waging a war of religious and cultural attrition. They also wage war on many fronts at once. .......

The post that you are answering to was a reply to an ongoing discussion with fishtalk and, taken by itself, is somewhat out of context.

My analysis of the current situation is stated in Post 225

Fishtalk was worried that the current violence will lead to the "takeover" right now. Right now, in the year 2005 round of the conflict, that is not a realistic outcome.

As I pointed out in Post 225, the current violence will get much worse before it gets better with a cycle of French appeasement and Muslim violence that will end in a pretty nasty fashion.

In the end, I see this as a valuable lesson for France that may derail the current path that you describe. France has not learned from the errors of others and it now learning from its own errors.

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"I have recorded these events in the hope that the reader may profit from them, for there are two ways by which all men may reform themselves, either by learning from their own errors or from those of others; the former makes a more striking demonstration, the latter a less painful one."......... Polybius (200-118 B.C.), Universal History, Book I, Chapter 35

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The Muslims may have played their hand to soon and, in giving the French "a more striking demonstration", may awaken the ancient European demons that drove them out of Western Europe once before.

301 posted on 11/06/2005 11:05:00 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
The post that you are answering to was a reply to an ongoing discussion with fishtalk and, taken by itself, is somewhat out of context.

Oops...sorry.

324 posted on 11/06/2005 11:41:26 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Polybius
In the end, this is good for France. It is teaching them a valuable lesson.

I agree.

Even though I think Islam is pure evil, I must pay a begrudging compliment to them on their strategy. Very clever. Very reptilian.

336 posted on 11/06/2005 11:58:36 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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