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Thousand cars torched in latest French riots(Paris/France burns, Live Thread Night #11)
Reuters ^ | 11/06/05 | Elisabeth Pineau

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:07:47 AM PST by Dane

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To: randog

Introducing "drug traffickers" into the mix looks like more denial. Mischaracterizing the enemy is a sure way to fight the wrong battle.


221 posted on 11/06/2005 8:38:43 AM PST by gcruse
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To: texasbluebell; GroupCommanderMandrake
Offically now nightfall in Paris and all of France.

Another round in the jihadi games begin in the land of Charels Martel and Joan of Arc.

222 posted on 11/06/2005 8:38:53 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: debg
Jacques Chirac will convene a Security Council interior on violences in the suburbs

Sheesh, even Chirac is holding his own "Security Council", what is with the French's almost pornagraphic love of the UN.

223 posted on 11/06/2005 8:41:42 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Evreux mayor Jean-Louis Debre, a confidant of President Jacques Chirac and speaker of the lower house of parliament, told France Info radio:

"To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious ... If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."

Is that the smell of capitulation wafting through the damp night breezes of France?
224 posted on 11/06/2005 8:45:18 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Fishtalk
I'm really serious here. Well almost serious. But like you all, I've been watching these events unfold over the past week or so and I'm wondering. How long will this go on? I mean, sooner or later it has to stop, right? Sooner or later the laughing must stop, seriousness must take over, right? Can the world just sit by and allow France to be taken over by the Muslims? If that thought is abhorrent, then who's going to take action? ..... I'm really serious here.......

This will get very much worse before it gets better. I will guarantee that.

However, France will not "fall" because even a country so far down the wrong path will not "fall" to 10% of the population that is not very well armed.

What will happen is that the French will bend over backwards to appease. The Muslims will then correctly interpret that as French weakness and their victory. They will then ratchet up the violence to gain an even greater victory and the French will appease even more and.....the cycle will continue.

Eventually, there will come a point when it will become apparent even to the most effeminate Frenchman that maybe, just maybe, you sometimes have to act like an American "cowboy" and kick some serious ass.

By that time, the cycle of violence and appeasement will have escalated the situation to a point that the response to quell the violence will have to be quite bloody.

In the end, this is good for France. It is teaching them a valuable lesson.

It is far better that they learn their lesson now than in the future when their Muslim population is 25%.

225 posted on 11/06/2005 8:46:05 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Dane
Compare and contrast:
226 posted on 11/06/2005 8:51:37 AM PST by Deo volente (They want to eradicate us. We need to eradicate them first.)
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To: debg
Jacques Chirac will join together Sunday at 6 p.m. in the Elysium a Security Council interior on violences in the suburbs, announced her entourage.

Well, there's at least one accurate sentence in the translated report.

227 posted on 11/06/2005 8:51:57 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Father, we pray that lies will destroy the liars and the truth will lift up the truthful.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Precisely why I left it in! LOL


228 posted on 11/06/2005 8:53:57 AM PST by debg
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To: GroupCommanderMandrake
so you're bookmarked for me along DailyKos, firedoglake, Needlenose. . .well, you get the picture.

Welcome to FR. You will find a generally civil discourse here. And FR is not a blog.....

You will probably find that your other links pale in comparison to the compendium of information avaliable here.

229 posted on 11/06/2005 8:55:13 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Deo volente

de villepin saying to himself, "At least my hair is perfectly coiffed, as France burns".

230 posted on 11/06/2005 8:55:31 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

They discovered a bomb making factory last night producing 100 molitaf cocktails. These folks are in it for a good while.


233 posted on 11/06/2005 9:01:09 AM PST by conservativepoet
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To: 1066AD
Hmmmmm. . .doublechecking this I'm seeing it referred to both ways. . .would make sense it would be "Captain." I was saving the DVD I bought for Xmas present to my nephews, but guess I'll have to break it open. In any case, I'm going with "Commander" since it took so long to get it set up everywhere.
234 posted on 11/06/2005 9:01:10 AM PST by GroupCommanderMandrake
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To: conservativepoet

"They discovered a bomb making factory last night producing 100 molitaf cocktails. These folks are in it for a good while."

Forgot to provide a link.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051106/D8DN0R7O0.html


237 posted on 11/06/2005 9:03:07 AM PST by conservativepoet
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To: Dane

Two positives:
Turkey will not get into the EU.
Western nations will be very wary of Muslim immigrants. Will make it harder for them to immigrate legally and illegally. Let's face facts. Islam is in Jihadist mode and this includes demographic Jihad. European nations have social welfare systems that pay for and subsidize the Muslims to have 6-10 children per wife and this includes multiple wives. France turns a blind eye to Muhammadan polygamy.

No Western nation should admit Muslim immigrants. They are pests. Their negatives far out weigh their positives. Islam is a cancer. A spreading cancer.


238 posted on 11/06/2005 9:03:17 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: randog
I postulated that if/when Islamic terrorists get involved then the game changes. Looks like the game has changed.

France had no plan to win the peace! They should have seen the power vacuum that would develop after the unwarranted crackdown in the autonomous territories. The UN must convene an emergency session and demand that France cease this incitement!

239 posted on 11/06/2005 9:04:02 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Dane

240 posted on 11/06/2005 9:04:11 AM PST by omega4179 (Tancredo 2008)
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