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It appears that folks here do not understand intelligent design. Yes, it has been seized upon by religious folks who see it as a defense of their faith, but the school of thought is rooted entirely in sound science. Specifically, it addresses such fatal flaws in macroevolution as parallel development of indetical features down separate "evolutionary lines;" irreducible complexity (in which a collection of separate novel features have no reason to have been "selected" individually, in that they only provide an advantage when taken as a whole; and the chromosomal barrier for species that reproduce sexually (what does something with a new number of chromosome pairs or different chromosomal configuration of critical genes mate with in order to propagate the "new" species or variant?).

I find the infighting of members of the Christian faith here distasteful. I am also shocked that a person would have his account suspended for questioning papal infallibility in the midst of a series of posts calling into question the theology of others either espousing or rebutting intelligent design. Should I assume that there is a theological bias here, or was there more going on than meets the eye?


67 posted on 11/05/2005 8:17:16 PM PST by kstone
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To: kstone
Such fatal flaws exist only in your imagination. If they had any validity, the Discovery Institute would have brought in these cannons and fired them at the Dover trial.

Instead, DI punted, admitting that intelligent design has no science backing it up. The "problem" you cite are vapor. All the specific examples if "irreducible" complexity are reducible, and Behe had to admit under oath that his examples are flawed.

The brighter ID advocates like Denton have already capitulated and gone on to fine tuning or the anthropic principle. Dembski is beginning to talk about intelligent evolution.
70 posted on 11/05/2005 8:25:39 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: kstone
and the chromosomal barrier for species that reproduce sexually (what does something with a new number of chromosome pairs or different chromosomal configuration of critical genes mate with in order to propagate the "new" species or variant?).

Chromosomal mutations may create sudden reproductive isolation, and often reduce fertility to some extent, but not necessarily so. Many chromosomal mutants are still fertile with non-mutants, and many species of Equids (horses) can be hybridized despite having different chromosome numbers.

74 posted on 11/05/2005 8:56:19 PM PST by Stultis
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