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1 posted on 11/04/2005 6:26:59 PM PST by A. Pole
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"This reality is light years away from the desire of Gilles Kepel, President Jacques Chirac’s advisor on Islamic affairs, to create “an Andalusia” of multi-denominational tolerance in France."

In many ways, it's already too late for France. The mandate is to convert Christians and destroy the Jews. When will the world wake up?


2 posted on 11/04/2005 6:31:36 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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What they need is a free Frogistan.

Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

3 posted on 11/04/2005 6:32:03 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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My God. This is a civil war, for crying out loud! You think it will end here? This fool in the article says there are de-facto "self-rule" areas. Sounds like separatism to me. What a horrible first place for it to break out! It couldn't possibly be worse - the French will knuckle under, and will serve as an example for dozens of movements to come, not the least of which will be Britain and the US.

I think it's time I finally went and bought a pisol.


4 posted on 11/04/2005 6:32:35 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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Ok, here is one of those opportunities to coin a new phrase for the lexicon. Should we call this the "Francefada" or the "Frank-O-Fada" or maybe the "Intifroga" or what? If Dennmark decends into the same chaos, maybe "Eurofada"?


5 posted on 11/04/2005 6:32:38 PM PST by Richard Axtell (what to believe? good question...)
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"Shouting “Allahu akbar!” groups of youths armed with clubs and sticks went on a rampage forcing the regular police to retreat."

The French!

6 posted on 11/04/2005 6:33:22 PM PST by lormand (Dead people vote DemocRAT)
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"The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community within France, coupled with the cultural enfeeblement and demographic decline of the French nation. The mix is dangerous. Its result has been stated with haughty arrogance by Tariq Ramadan, professor of Islamic studies at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and a grandson of Hasan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. Ramadan proposes through his teachings and writings that Muslims in the West should conduct themselves not as hyphenated citizens seeking to live by “common values” but as though they were already living in a Muslim-majority society and were exempt on that account from having to make concessions to the faith of others. Muslims in non-Muslim countries should feel themselves entitled to live on their own terms—while, under the terms of Western liberal tolerance, society as a whole should feel obliged to respect that choice.

THIS, my friends, is exactly what we have been saying is the true nature of the problem.

The entire earth is not safe while these sadistic murders are on it.


7 posted on 11/04/2005 6:34:04 PM PST by austinaero
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She was was gang raped by three people she knew, but could not say anything because her family would be dishonored.
Religion of Peace.
12 posted on 11/04/2005 6:36:21 PM PST by samtheman
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This reality is light years away from the desire of Gilles Kepel, President Jacques Chirac’s advisor on Islamic affairs, to create "an Andalusia" of multi-denominational tolerance in France.

More about the New Andalusia at THE FUTURE THROUGH FRENCH EYES:

[...] This French alternative [...] aims to create the "New Andalusia", a 21st-century version of what Kepel imagines Spain to have been under Muslim rule, this time in the whole of the European Union. Kepel does not say who will rule but waxes lyrical about his Islamo-Christian Utopia.

"Andalusia must come to symbolise a place where the hybridisation and flowering of two distinct cultures can produce an extraordinary progress in civilisation.[...]

15 posted on 11/04/2005 6:39:27 PM PST by A. Pole (Rubicon: the border between Republic and Empire(www.unrv.com/fall-republic/crossing-the-rubicon.php))
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This is the fight I been waiting for 1200 years!!! REMEMBER ROLAND!! FIGHT IN THE NAME OF CHARLEMAGNE!!! FIGHT FOR MARTEL THE HAMMER!!! FIGHT FOR THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE!!!


17 posted on 11/04/2005 6:42:21 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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The same story will be printed in the NYT anytime now.< / snicker >

The only good thing is, hopefully this will be a wake up call for Britain, Germany and Spain to address this "problem" before this is fully integrated into their countries.

21 posted on 11/04/2005 6:44:51 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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An intifada is exactly what it is.


22 posted on 11/04/2005 6:45:26 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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It is time for France to dust off this guy...


30 posted on 11/04/2005 6:49:10 PM PST by lormand (Dead people vote DemocRAT)
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“All we demand is to be left alone,” said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local “emirs”

Jeez, this Vicomte13 fella who thinks he is a real expert not only on France but also the USA claims that the real problem is that the France has failed to fully integrate the Muslims into French society. Vicomte13's solution is to give all the Muslim punks government jobs.
35 posted on 11/04/2005 6:50:08 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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"The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community within France, coupled with the cultural enfeeblement and demographic decline of the French nation."

Now that is what I call calling a spade a spade.
42 posted on 11/04/2005 6:56:26 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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How sick, backward, and rigid these muslims be. When the world realizes it's not a small minority who think this way, there may have be a day of reckoning.
45 posted on 11/04/2005 6:58:47 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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"Disorder has now spread to dozens of provincial towns, including Dijon"

Damn - where do we go for mustard now? At least the Aussies are making good wine. I can't remember the last time I drank a French wine.


50 posted on 11/04/2005 7:02:56 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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If this gets bigger, and it will in france or elsewhere, the left's arguments will be more rapidly diminished and we can get on with this war.

We win when muslim extremist act stupid. Thank God for the stupid, they come out even without the need of decoy or rabbit to draw them out of their dark damp caves of self hatred.
52 posted on 11/04/2005 7:03:41 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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"Its result has been stated with haughty arrogance by Tariq Ramadan, professor of Islamic studies at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and a grandson of Hasan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood."

This was the clown that Notre Dame wanted to hire so that he could poison the mind of young Americans, if I remember correctly.

Yep, I did remember correctly.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/255

There is lots at the link above, including:

Among those who have leapt to Ramadan's defense is Scott Appleby, a board member of the Catholic Theologoical Union and director of the Joan B. Kroc Center for International Peace Studies at Notre Dame which offered Tariq Ramadan the professorship.
54 posted on 11/04/2005 7:04:10 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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French-born North African males.

Whatever the hell that is....

Many French-born Arab girls in the ghettos resort to wearing hijab as the only protection

It took five paragraphs to cough up "Arab."

The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community within France, coupled with the cultural enfeeblement and demographic decline of the French nation.

Beautifully stated.

60 posted on 11/04/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by quantim (Just be glad Detroit is not in a hurricane zone.)
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"The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community."

The truth at last. None of that poor little thugs feel under-appreciated stuff, which is just making excuses for scum.
64 posted on 11/04/2005 7:10:00 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope (The cause of the French intifada is the arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrants)
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