Posted on 11/04/2005 5:06:51 PM PST by Anthem
Aerodynamics is the proper choice for the flight reference... but, I believe the Bumble Bee also has built in avionics... a sort of GPS sytem :)
If this was true, I'd be a little bit worried about it. If you start changing hydrogen atoms into something new and completely different, pretty soon you might not have any water.
Sort of like Kurt Vonnegut's Ice Nine.
I read Herman Hesse at Harvard. The Quad is grassy and shady and quite a few cute girls too.
The third best must be an airline seat.
Avionics? or Aerodynamics?
BTW, I saw a great article on research into the wing pivot structures in insects. The organic material in the pivot has ultrahigh elasticity good for 500 million+ cycles. Bottom line: Look to Nature!
Yes, but since they navigate by sun angle they're clearly day VFC only!
Sorry Moonie-
Some of us get exited and don't read ahead!
Yes. I wonder if it may have something to do with conservative's nervousness about what Bush and his PNAC buddies are up to, and so they find low risk places to vent rather than risk the attention of the bellicose enforcers of the current administration. Too many good people are gone from here because they dared to raise questions.
Or it may just be the herd instinct.
The Space.com article I linked to in post #41 has more of the science debate.
Blacklight has been making claims like this since the internet first came to the homes of the average citizen.
They have been expanding the orbit of hydrogen's electron for years by adding energy. Apparently the theory here is that lowering the orbit produces energy, and Mills is doing it with some proprietary catalyst. I've been looking around at what confirmation I could find, and it looks pretty interesting.
Well, its not really a new idea. Mills et al filed their initial patent application in 1989, 16 years ago. "...which is a continuation-in-part application of Ser. No. 07/341,733 filed Apr. 21, 1989 which are all incorporated herein by this reference." [from Mills et al 6,024,935]
I like his new version of atomic physics:
"Thus, an electron is a spinning, two-dimensional spherical surface, hereafter called an electron orbitsphere, that can exist in a bound state at only specified distances from the nucleus."
and
"Orbitsphere radii are calculated by setting the centripetal force equal to the electric and magnetic forces."
and the 'source' of the energy:
"The absorption of an energy hole destroys the balance between the centrifugal force and the increased central electric force. As a result, the electron undergoes a transition to a lower energy nonradiative state."
So all you have to do is slow those electrons down, and they have to drop down to a lower orbit just like a NASCAR car with a failing engine since they don't have as much centrifugal force. Makes sense, in a tinfoil hat kind of way, but its hard to get much energy out of slowing down something that weighs 9 x 10 -31st kilograms...
All the great inventors have been faced with naysayers. I say give the guy his chance to make a difference, and if he is wrong, so what, at least he tried. But if he is right, wow!
It has; when it is in a compound it's at a lower engergy state. That was Mills starting point.
That works for me. Ping on the loose!
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What never ceases to amaze me is the gullibility of people like yourself.
The overwhelming majority of stuff like this turns out to be nonsense, a scam, or both, and they tend to have commonalities in the way they're presented that set off the spidey-sense of the more scientifically educated rather quickly.
Because science education is so bad in this country and what people do learn about it tends to be from movies or sensationalized documentaries or news reports, and there are a great many people that just flat out hate science and scientists, unfortunately people develop this emotional fascination with the lone maverick supposedly overturning the scientific consensus (which is fairly rare, for every one that does, there were a million lone mavericks who were horribly wrong or mistaken and are now long forgotten) which is often exploited by scam artists.
The absorption of an energy hole destroys the balance between the centrifugal force and the increased central electric force. As a result, the electron undergoes a transition to a lower energy nonradiative state."
Well, I guess I am one of those who immediately jump on and dismiss this as nonsense.
This article shows clearly why this guy's claims are nonsense. The low-energy states of the hydrogen atom are direct solutions to the Schroedinger equation. You can do this in the case of hydrogen because it is a simple 2-body system.
The ground state of hydrogen has no angular momentum. Therefore, it has no magnetic field. It has no centripital force
It is kind of tough to slow an electron's orbital speed down when it already doesn't have an orbital speed (i.e. the orbital speed is zero).
The only way to change the ground state energy would be to change the fine structure constant, Planck's constant, or the mass of the electron. Just how would he do that???
Other than those objections, I guess this idea has some merit.
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