Posted on 11/04/2005 5:19:41 AM PST by .cnI redruM
>>>>but I'm aghast that some serious people are giving congressional conservatives credit for ``finally facing up to the deficit.''
No, I don't give them credit. The Prescription Drug Panderation Act still exists and so does Senator Stevens' Bridge to Nowhere.
>>>If House leaders were serious about the deficit, they would admit that you can't finance a war with tax cuts.
Care to explain why tax revenues are higher after the tax cuts than they were before them then?
I'm sorry to wax so wroth this am, but EJ Dionne is a prime example of why liberalism is a cancer.
I would love someone to explain to me how welfare encourages hard work, personal responsibility and family values.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")
"Their cuts in food stamps would eliminate from the program 225,000 people in working households with children."
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...many of whom are getting the stamps illegally, are able bodied and can go to work, or are collecting benefits from more than one source (i.e., WIC, school breakfast/lunch/dinner programs).
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"And then there are the deep cuts in Medicaid. In their package of $50 billion in cuts over five years, the House Republicans are proposing $9.4 billion in Medicaid cuts, which would grow to $45 billion over the next 10 years. Millions of children -- especially those in low-income working families -- could be charged higher co-payments and premiums. Studies show such increases in out-of-pocket costs have their greatest impact on Americans toward the bottom of the income scale who go without the health care they need."
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Much of the money goes to fund abortions. We don't need that. And the children -- well, it's really simple -- if you are poor, don't have a litter of children. These folks have a half dozen kids and they want government to pay for their food, clothing, housing, education and health care. Enough already!
"Then why does the House propose cuts for child support enforcement?"
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Because this is something that should be dealt with by the states, individually or cooperatively (where the offending parent lives out of state). States generally do enforce child support, so this is probably a duplicative effort.
“I would love someone to explain to me how welfare encourages hard work, personal responsibility and family values.”
Oh that is easy. Welfare encourages hard work, personal responsibility and family values because, ah, I mean, um, well, it’s sorta like this, you see, hmmm, can I get back to on this later?
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")
When I see any number of ABC agencies on the chopping block, I'll take republicrats a little more serious, until then, it's just so much smoke. Blackbird.
Reliance on federal handouts breeds dependence on them.
How is $9.4 billion, in a program that will spend over $1 trillion, a 'deep cut'? If EJ Dionne used the real numbers, like "a 1% deep cut" it would make his arguments laughable.
I question why we might have to cut these specific programs and not the farm subsidies or middle-class entitlements like medicare (or why not to cap spending in them all), but to call these 'deep' is absurd.
Here is the outrage!
When, in my household, excome exceeds income, we have to make budget cuts. Now, we cutback on vacations and entertainment. We turn the T-state down about 2 degrees in the winter. We forego some fringe fun things and if it gets really bad, we might look for alternative sources of income.
Here is what we do not do; We do not give away one of our children or sell the house to live on the streets!
If anyone were to hold these mamby pamby talking heads accountable, then someone might ask them why they need to cut the art and music programs (fire teachers) in a school system but keep the plans to spend $20Million on the new highschoold football stadium when budget cuts come around.
You see the same thing in all government. "Budget cuts" means firing police officers, fireman and teachers. But look harder, nothing said about the brand new $300,000 snorkel truck that was purchased in a town thats tallest building is 4 stories. Forget the fact that the last firehouse built is looks like a country club with all of the nicest amenitities available.
If the federal government really wanted to cut spending they would delegate the management and responsibility of education and wellfare to the states and det out of that business completely. Cut the collection and funding at the federal level and let the states manage themselves. Poverty would radically change in this country.
>>>>Reliance on federal handouts breeds dependence on them.
Which is precisely what EJ Dionne likes to see.
>>>>Cut the collection and funding at the federal level and let the states manage themselves. Poverty would radically change in this country.
Which is ultimately what EJ Dionne is truly afraid of.
I saw a liberal clergyman on O'Reilly last night. He was trashing this proposed cut by the House, claiming that it was not something a Christian would vote for. My recollection is that Jesus told us to give of our own wealth, not to steal money from other people, and give that to the poor.
What a tool, I haven't even seen the details of these supposed "cuts" but I would guess it's a reduction in the rate of growth of these programs. Their outrage is based on a twisted definition of cut, maybe we should do a true across-the-board cut to show these socialists what it's really like.
Perhaps the government should just tax 100%....
"Let me tell you how it should be...
there's 1 for you 19 for me."
So true. These cuts are designed to inflict the maximum punishment on the audacity of Taxpayers who reject bond or millage proposals. The real fat goes untouched.
In fact, many of these luxuries are tied in with Federal funding. The luxury gym in the firehouse is funded 80% by Homeland Security grants while actual firefighters are funded locally and laid off. A real mess.
Exactamundo!! All an across-the-board cut shows is a lack of intellectual firepower on the Republican side. We had a chance to cut pork and we blew it.
I agree, poor kiddies. There are a few that after their free lunch have no cell phones to chat on. We should address that before we start cutting.
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