Shaped from clay [origin of life]

Nature Magazine ^ | 03 November 2005 | Philip Ball

[RightWhale]

Well, that is the idea. If there was life on earth at the time, a smaller earth than we have at present since it collided with and absorbed with something the size of Mars, there could well be fossils on the moon. There might be nothing left of those fossils on earth, but the moon could have preserved them. Kind of interesting.

[longshadow]

That [G3k believing 1^720 a large number] must have been a hoot. How did you guys keep a straight face?

We didn't....

In fairness, it was an obvious typo; but the point was that even though I kept asking him: "how big a number do you think 1⁷²⁰ really is?" he didn't catch on to his OWN typo for about three days! To not notice a mistake like that, when everyone was pointing to it and dropping hints, for three days doesn't speak well of his understanding of the material he was cutting'n'pasting, nor his understanding of mathematical representations....

[norton]

I'm way late into this, been a long week/month, but I think the point is that one simplistic "proof" was dethroned by a slightly less simplistic rebuttal.

My guess is that science/environment/reality has a tendancy to make most of our recent and curent "proof" look simplistic as soon as someone is able to take another step.

And that's sort of what this entire debate is all about.

[b_sharp]

"Define 'primitive'"

High level of superstitious belief due to little understanding of natural processes. Low percentage of educated general population. High illiteracy rate. High energy expenditure for simple survival.

Is that enough?

[Senator Bedfellow]

I'm now working on 'Give you $5.00 to shovel my walk'.

$5 Canadian? I bet all the neighborhood kids think of you as a regular Daddy Warbucks, eh? ;)

[b_sharp]

I took a short look at the links you gave. G3k was very good at looking silly. His ability to frustrate others by regurgitating obvious strawman arguments is hardly something to be proud of.

[b_sharp]

I can't imagine any fossils surviving that kind of impact, the heat would have been incredible. Just MHO though.

[Michael_Michaelangelo]

LOL! I think we'll let the lurkers decide. :)

[b_sharp]

"Also heard Peter Ward learn that the sun is 100 times earth's diameter. Who knew that he didn't know?"

I do not believe that. The sun and the moon are both the same size and direct observation proves it. The moon and the sun look to be exactly the same size. The moon is obviously smaller than the earth. The shadow of the earth completely covers the moon but the moon's shadow doesn't cover up the entire earth. There you have it. The sun is smaller than the earth.

[RightWhale]

Thank you, Ptolemy.

[b_sharp]

"$5 Canadian? I bet all the neighborhood kids think of you as a regular Daddy Warbucks, eh? ;)

:-P

Its not how much the Canuck Buck is worth compared to the the US buck, but how much that buck will buy. I can buy a rather nice 1200 sq. ft. new home for about $120,000 C. Of course the main problem we have up here in the Great White North is melt damage during the 3 week long summer. I frequently have to replace a good 5% of the snow blocks on the south side of my house.

[ml1954]

Genesis one isn't about sequences. The sacred writers purposefully placed stumbling blocks in the writing to take certain ideas off the table.

That's interesting. I never heard anyone say Genesis was a puzzle. It's been taken literally, and as an allegory, but as a puzzle? /p>

[PatrickHenry]

... melt damage during the 3 week long summer. I frequently have to replace a good 5% of the snow blocks on the south side of my house.

Yeah, those sizzling Canadian summers can really ruin a good snow block. I hear that during such scorchers, the walrus blubber stored in the cellar can get ruined.

[Elsie]

But I thought that is what most Evo's here think of C's and IDer's

[Elsie]

Maybe the DeltaV wasn't that great....

[b_sharp]

"Yeah, those sizzling Canadian summers can really ruin a good snow block. I hear that during such scorchers, the walrus blubber stored in the cellar can get ruined."

That used to be quite true, up until the time we started using freezers.

I can still remember as a youngster trying to keep the dogs from digging under the house to get to the blubber. Fond memories indeed.

[Elsie]

Well....


DaVinci has been stated as.........

[PatrickHenry]

... trying to keep the dogs from digging under the house to get to the blubber.

Hey, you gotta protect that blubber.

[b_sharp]

"But I thought that is what most Evo's here think of C's and IDer's

I think most Evos here believe Cs and IDers have a bad case of Morton's Demon.

[b_sharp]

"Hey, you gotta protect that blubber."

Energy crisis? What energy crisis?