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1 posted on 11/03/2005 12:05:14 PM PST by GreenFreeper
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"What we're afraid of is that this will end up being window dressing for vegetative treatments that might benefit the sage-grouse and might benefit deer and elk, but will surely benefit cattle," said Allison Jones, a biologist with the Western Wildlife Conservancy. "We're worried about the lesser-known species like the three-toed woodpecker and the pygmy rabbit. These are species that are currently falling through the cracks and need the most funds. So let's sit back and see where [DWR] really focuses its resources."

Yeah I'm sure big brother would do a better job managing species than the people that actually live there. Conservation is reliant upon local work, not federal bureaucracy!

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2 posted on 11/03/2005 12:08:52 PM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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Environ-MENTAL-ists, and other assorted leftists will be the death of this Nation.


3 posted on 11/03/2005 12:10:20 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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From my considerable experience on the matter, I have found that liberals use external control, or regulation, to forcibly change land use to transfer wealth, achieve their vision of fairness and the collective public good. Conservatives use incentives, education, market forces and individual moral responsibility to attract the individual to choose a change in land use that will have a public benefit.

All the urban and many of the suburban areas have paved over or otherwise destroyed habitat. The remaining wildlife/fisheries habitat is either privately owned in rural areas or on federal or state managed lands. What the ESA does is punish the rural farmer, rancher or timberland owner who still has habitat and species on his property by prohibiting them from using their property and by requiring them to pay for all take avoidance, minimization and mitigation measures.

The urban fellow whose habitat is long gone, along with the species, gets off Scott free and gets to demand with great immunity and unbrage that the rural fellow pay for his damage to the public trust.


18 posted on 11/03/2005 5:50:11 PM PST by marsh2
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"What we're afraid of is that this will end up being window dressing for vegetative treatments that might benefit the sage-grouse and might benefit deer and elk, but will surely benefit cattle," said Allison Jones, a biologist with the Western Wildlife Conservancy.

There is the whole concern, it would also benefit cattle. Why is that bad as long as it benefits the other wild life too? They hate food producers, expecially if they raise cattle or sheep or grow wheat. They don't want things done to benefit the wildlife itf it will also benefit cows.


19 posted on 11/03/2005 6:29:34 PM PST by midwyf
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