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1 posted on 11/03/2005 7:51:40 AM PST by TLI
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75% say the government isn't doing enough to prevent illegal immigration (15% say it is, while 4% say its doing too much).

SOURCE: CBS News poll of 808 adults, conducted Oct. 3-5, with an error margin of plus or minus 4 percentage points

[6% don't know what country they're in]


2 posted on 11/03/2005 8:16:40 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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5 posted on 11/03/2005 8:46:33 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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6 posted on 11/03/2005 9:12:49 AM PST by gubamyster
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How many people know what a vigilante is and how these patrols do or do not fit that definition?

How is it that the chief law enforcement officer of our country does not know what a vigilante is?


7 posted on 11/03/2005 9:35:36 AM PST by RonF
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Citizen patrols try to shed vigilante image

Bush's Fault!
He called then vigilantes.

8 posted on 11/03/2005 9:37:48 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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Why don't the Governors of Texas, Arizona, etc. call out the National Guard of their state and put them on the borders? When a Governor calls out his state's militia, they can function as law enforcement officers; it's only when they are federalized that they cannot act as such.

President Bush would have to federalize the State Guards in order to stop this, and then what? It would lose him votes big time in his base, and look at what happened with the Miers nomination when he lost touch with his base. He won't be eager to do that again. Plus, if he federalzies them, he has to pay them. And then what? Send them home? If he takes them off the payroll, the Governors can just call them out again.


9 posted on 11/03/2005 9:38:47 AM PST by RonF
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Minute men are not vigilantes but when the law does not do it job of stopping CRIMINAL INVADERS than the time for real
vigilantes is about due.


10 posted on 11/03/2005 9:46:57 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I shot an error into the air. It's still going everywhere. R. A. HEINLEIN)
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Citizen patrols try to shed vigilante image

Even if this were a true statement it would only be true in the bloodshot eyes of the anti-American OBL terrorists in America.

12 posted on 11/03/2005 12:12:16 PM PST by Ron H. (Tancredo has been Right all along on securing American borders!)
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To: TLI

Karen Brooks is a vigilante who writes for the Dallas Morning News.


13 posted on 11/03/2005 1:05:16 PM PST by judgeandjury
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If people really knew their history, we wouldn't even be having this debate. However, since the ordinary folks (and certainly the MSM) do not know or understand the history of this country, we're stuck with cartoonlike caricatures of what vigilantes are and what their purpose was.

I don't think you'll ever see a PR stunt to try and avoid the "vigilante" label be successful. The reason is that, just like the racism charges, the claim was baseless to begin with. It's your typical Goebbels-esuqe repeat after me hat trick. You will never persuade people like that, and the press gets their marching orders from the so-called Hispanic groups, who are so predictable it's sad. If you've heard one, you've heard all of those people.

I wish the Minutemen the best of luck in this project, but I wouldn't bet the farm (well, ranch) that it's overly effective.
15 posted on 11/04/2005 7:37:30 AM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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