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Bush War Policy Is Now in Play [MSM now advocating cut-and-run]
LATimes ^ | November 3, 2005 | By Janet Hook and Ronald Brownstein

Posted on 11/03/2005 4:05:30 AM PST by johnny7

• Democrats renew their criticism as public opposition solidifies, the body count grows and prewar intelligence is under a new assault.

WASHINGTON — For months, the politics of the Iraq war have been frozen in place, with stalwart Republicans defending President Bush's policy and most Democrats shunning a direct challenge. Now the ice has begun to crack.

In the face of solidifying public opposition to the war, a mounting U.S. body count and a renewed focus on the faulty intelligence used to justify the war, Democratic lawmakers and candidates have sharpened their critique of the administration's policy and, in some cases, urged a withdrawal of U.S. troops. "The mood has really shifted," said Sen. Russell D. Feingold (D-Wis.), who in August became the chamber's first member to call for a troop withdrawal. "We are in a whole different period."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: brownstein
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Should've been titled... “How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory”.This article alone will steel the Islamo-scum for another year.
1 posted on 11/03/2005 4:05:32 AM PST by johnny7
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Should've been titled: "Dems using liberal US media attempts to steer policy and make up news in US..again..."


2 posted on 11/03/2005 4:09:47 AM PST by OpusatFR (Yes, I'm having a bad day. Thank you for asking.)
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Wishful thinking at the LA Times.


3 posted on 11/03/2005 4:10:31 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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I guess we're just supposed to forget about the 8 years of the Clinton administration and the dems whipping the American public up for a taste of war...

Don't look behind the curtain... nothing to see here.

4 posted on 11/03/2005 4:11:36 AM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: Tom Bombadil

What should have been said here:

LA Times calls for American Surrender in Iraq.


5 posted on 11/03/2005 4:12:31 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: johnny7

Is the public really against the war - has the MSM drumbeat finally convinced them (repeat a lie often enough and it will be believed)?

Or are they just stacking statistics for more lying?


6 posted on 11/03/2005 4:12:38 AM PST by RoadTest (The Fear Of The Lord is the beginning of Wisdom)
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I guess they would have declared Pear Harbor avenged in 1943 and called for an end to the island hopping campaign.


7 posted on 11/03/2005 4:14:39 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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The dems are so afraid that the upcoming elections in Iraq are going to be successful.

Given the fact that we lost 40,000 troops in Korea over a three year period, it's interesting to see the utter depravity of our demorats and their cohorts in the media.

8 posted on 11/03/2005 4:17:36 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: armydawg1

Other famous article be Ronald Brownstein:

"Moves Expected to Bolster Dean Front-Runner Status"
by Ronald Brownstein


9 posted on 11/03/2005 4:18:16 AM PST by exDemocratbutnotRepubican
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re: faulty intelligence used to justify the war

My dad used to say "the best defense is a strong offense." Certainly not his own thinking, but sometimes a useful response to being in the wrong and knowing you're in the wrong.

I think that's what we're seeing here. The Bush administration inherited the intelligence system that totally missed 9/11 from the the Clinton administration.

What better way to divert attention to the sins of the intelligence community after eight years of the Clinton administration than mounting a deafening attack on the administration that suffered the consequences.
10 posted on 11/03/2005 4:19:56 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: Tom Bombadil
Absolutely. These people live in a parallel universe where every liberal opinion is correct and can't be challenged. In the real world the MSM is as passe as liberalism. Oh well, on to the the Alito swearing in.
11 posted on 11/03/2005 4:23:08 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: johnny7
War policy will not be "in play" until the Democrats elect some wimpy, lily-livered, useless peacenik moron as President. They tried that last time and lost. They'll try it next time and lose again. By the time after that, the War will be over, and we will have won.

If the Senate Permanent Minority wants to posture and bloviate, that's their business. But nobody who matters is listening.

12 posted on 11/03/2005 4:24:17 AM PST by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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These people are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


13 posted on 11/03/2005 4:24:41 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Why do Blacks ride in the back of the 'Rat coalition bus Chucky??)
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"the best defense is a strong offense."

Your dad was right. Defense is what you do while refitting for your next attack.

14 posted on 11/03/2005 4:24:49 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Tom Bombadil

Wishful thinking, indeed.

Indeed, more like totally manufactured crises that exist only in the minds of frantic and deluded Rats desperate to believe there's any basis upon which they can "get Bush."


15 posted on 11/03/2005 4:25:41 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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Oh boy, what a morale booster this is. Just imagine being a GI reading this piece.

Myopic liberals. They are determined to re-create Viet Nam reactions in the public. Given the recent polls on support for the war, they appear to be having some success.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 4:27:20 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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"The mood has really shifted," said Sen. Russell D. Feingold (D-Wis.), who in August became the chamber's first member to call for a troop withdrawal. "We are in a whole different period."

The mood????
17 posted on 11/03/2005 4:27:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Tom Bombadil
This isn't mere wishful thinking. We are losing the war on terrorism, and the signs grow clearer with each passing day. Now, that doesn't refer to our heroic troops, who continue to claim more victories, large and small, with each passing day in the theaters in which they engage. They can do the impossible--annihilate the terrorists completely wheresoever they legally can do so--and that would not change the fact that we are losing this war.

We will lose the war on terrorism, like the Vietnam war, in the theater of the Congress and the media. Declining viewership of Columbia Broadcasting Systems et al. and readership of The New York Times et al. with respect to listerership of Rush Limbaugh et al. suggests a slight shift in our direction in the media theater.

So that leaves the Congress. The American people clearly elected a Democratic majority to the United States Senate in 2004. Republicans in 2008 MUST retake the Senate, and conservatives MUST retake the Republican caucus in the Senate. We otherwise might as well ask our soldiers to surrender now, lest they sacrifice even more in vain. Despite earlier appearances, it now seems that Americans desired a Democratic House, too, because they elected a rabid liberal Democrat to the seemingly omnipotent post of "Travis County prosecutor."

Our chances of victory in this war therefore depend on our ability to recruit and elect ethically unimpeachable conservative Republican candidates for the Congress, Travis County prosecutor, and especially the now-liberal United States Senate. We must cut the swelling ranks of the Congressional Surrender Caucus before it grows into a majority in either House or Senate. It's darn near a majority in the Senate now.
18 posted on 11/03/2005 4:27:55 AM PST by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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The more these Rats call for troop withdrawals, the better it is for Repubs.

The biggest obstacle facing the Rat party today is their deep and wide reputation for being soft on national security and completely incompetent and untrustworthy in matters related to war.

John F. Kerry's greatest contribution to the future of the country was demonstrating for an entire new generation how utterly irresponsible it would be to trust the Rats with fighting a war.

Kerry singlehandedly educated an entire next generation on the true and great lessons of the Viet Nam war and the lethal philosophical and political weakness of the anti-war movement (then and now).

The more the Rats come out huffing and puffing about troop withdrawal, the more Americans realize they are nuts and not to be trusted.


19 posted on 11/03/2005 4:29:45 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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I think what's happening is that one percent of the population is stirring up ten percent of the population with lies and misrepresentations. But because of internet traffic and multiple posts to congresscritters, it appears as if much more than ten percent is angry and wanting to take this approach.

The reality is, only one percent want it. The rest are too busy or lazy to do their own research and thinking.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 4:31:22 AM PST by savedbygrace
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