Right on. It's been a long time since I've felt the need to try and be rational with any liberal. They're beyond being talked to like adults, and don't even know the definition of rationality or convictions above political affiliation. When all democrats circled the wagons around clinton time after time after time when scandal after scandal surfaced from him for eight years, that's when I stopped trying to be rational and debate any liberal. If a Republican President had done just one quarter of what clinton had done, we'd of all cut him loose and run him out of the party with a pointy stick. The fact that the democrats don't self-govern within the party, to me, proves that there is NO reason to treat them as intellectual equals. When someone is in denial about the facts and reality of the world, they're not worth being talked to as if they're adults.